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Help me confirm or deny some stuff about Hilary Clinton please
#51
RE: Help me confirm or deny some stuff about Hilary Clinton please
(April 6, 2016 at 1:25 pm)Goosebump Wrote:
(April 6, 2016 at 1:10 pm)Aegon Wrote: Hm? The video isn't really an ad. I mean, I guess you could say it is in a way, but it's just footage of Clinton speaking for the most part

Like Min said, the video was made with an intention. Just like an ad. You can find one for just about anybody in the public eye you want. Here is one of Sanders "socialist lies exposed" should it hold any weight? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDL4MQaJGAE

No, considering there is no actual footage of anything that he refers to, he is nearly making up half of what he is saying. I stopped around the 2 minute mark. Someone tell this guy that Bernie's plan on how to pay for the college program is already out there. 

I get the point. However, I do respect the video I posted a lot more because it is just raw footage of Clinton saying one thing then totally reversing it. The video you posted is just some guy not showing you any original footage, but instead interpreting everything and spitting his opinions at you. Yes, the video I posted was made with the intention of portraying Clinton as a liar, but all the creator had to do was splice raw media footage together to do that. This guy has to lie out his ass
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#52
RE: Help me confirm or deny some stuff about Hilary Clinton please
Quote:Hm? The video isn't really an ad. I mean, I guess you could say it is in a way, but it's just footage of Clinton speaking for the most part

Oh, come on, be serious.

Those anti-choice scumbags carefully edited video and released it to "prove" Planned Parenthood was selling baby parts.  Surely you can't be that naive?
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#53
RE: Help me confirm or deny some stuff about Hilary Clinton please
Who exactly is planned parenthood selling aborted fetuses to? Because if they're selling it to stem cell research, then that could be one of the most important benefits of abortions.

(April 6, 2016 at 1:25 pm)Goosebump Wrote:
(April 6, 2016 at 1:10 pm)Aegon Wrote: Hm? The video isn't really an ad. I mean, I guess you could say it is in a way, but it's just footage of Clinton speaking for the most part

Like Min said, the video was made with an intention. Just like an ad. You can find one for just about anybody in the public eye you want. Here is one of Sanders "socialist lies exposed" should it hold any weight? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDL4MQaJGAE

Alex Jones? Really?
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#54
RE: Help me confirm or deny some stuff about Hilary Clinton please
(April 6, 2016 at 1:32 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(April 6, 2016 at 1:25 pm)Goosebump Wrote: Like Min said, the video was made with an intention. Just like an ad. You can find one for just about anybody in the public eye you want. Here is one of Sanders "socialist lies exposed" should it hold any weight? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDL4MQaJGAE

No, considering there is no actual footage of anything that he refers to, he is nearly making up half of what he is saying. I stopped around the 2 minute mark. Someone tell this guy that Bernie's plan on how to pay for the college program is already out there. 

I get the point. However, I do respect the video I posted a lot more because it is just raw footage of Clinton saying one thing then totally reversing it. The video you posted is just some guy not showing you any original footage, but instead interpreting everything and spitting his opinions at you. Yes, the video I posted was made with the intention of portraying Clinton as a liar, but all the creator had to do was splice raw media footage together to do that. This guy has to lie out his ass

That wasn't the best example, however you can google just as well as I. You can find a video of just about any politician flip flopping or caught in a lie or whatever you want. The Burn flip flop on guns daily news video comes to mind, or the 65 obama lies video that ran around youtube. You like your video because it reinforces your position no? 

Guess my point is, that if you base an important choice on hacked up footage, that might not be wise.
"I'm thick." - Me
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#55
RE: Help me confirm or deny some stuff about Hilary Clinton please
(April 6, 2016 at 2:33 pm)Phosphorescent Panties Wrote: Who exactly is planned parenthood selling aborted fetuses to? Because if they're selling it to stem cell research, then that could be one of the most important benefits of abortions.

(April 6, 2016 at 1:25 pm)Goosebump Wrote: Like Min said, the video was made with an intention. Just like an ad. You can find one for just about anybody in the public eye you want. Here is one of Sanders "socialist lies exposed" should it hold any weight? 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDL4MQaJGAE

Alex Jones? Really?

Seems to be par for the course with the fascist right.
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#56
RE: Help me confirm or deny some stuff about Hilary Clinton please
Those of you thinking of moving to other countries, please don't. We need more like-minded folks here fighting the good fight.

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#57
RE: Help me confirm or deny some stuff about Hilary Clinton please
(April 6, 2016 at 12:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:The House does look steep, but don't they hold elections every 2 years?

Yes, and in case you haven't noticed the pattern the party holding the white house generally loses seats in the mid-terms.  Reference earlier observation that less than 37% of the population could even be bothered to get off their asses and vote in the 2014 mid-terms.

You have far too great an expectation of your fellow citizens.

I'm not saying this will happen. I'm just saying it can, and it wouldn't surprise me that much from a voter base that would actually elect a non-establishment underdog like Sanders.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)

Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
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#58
RE: Help me confirm or deny some stuff about Hilary Clinton please
(April 6, 2016 at 1:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Hm? The video isn't really an ad. I mean, I guess you could say it is in a way, but it's just footage of Clinton speaking for the most part

Oh, come on, be serious.

Those anti-choice scumbags carefully edited video and released it to "prove" Planned Parenthood was selling baby parts.  Surely you can't be that naive?

Yeah, and further scrutiny showed that it was bullshit. Further scrutiny in the Clinton video shows that her voting record is shit and she has flip-flopped just as the video implies she did. So.
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#59
RE: Help me confirm or deny some stuff about Hilary Clinton please
Quote:I'm just saying it can,

Yeah... meanwhile I'll be out hunting for supermodels to fuck.  Seems like a more productive use of my time!

Big Grin
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#60
RE: Help me confirm or deny some stuff about Hilary Clinton please
(April 7, 2016 at 1:42 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:I'm just saying it can,

Yeah... meanwhile I'll be out hunting for supermodels to fuck.  Seems like a more productive use of my time!

Big Grin



How much of my time and energy do you think I'm using to drive 5 minutes to a poll and vote? Sanders is motivating voter turnout in record numbers that continue to grow as his momentum builds. If he actually manages, against the flow of the media and the rest of the politics machine, to spark enough voters to get himself nominated and elected in a year when so many seats are up for re-election, it seems very likely that the same voters who do that will also have an impact on the congressional election (which will be on the same day and probably even the same ballot in many states). While gerrymandering does influence those elections significantly, that doesn't mean the majority party never changes. It can and does. It is not naive or wishful thinking to acknowledge that the party majority could swing in a big election year with a lot of seats up for grabs.


I'm not saying this will definitely happen, I'm just saying it's ignorant and short-sighted to believe with certainty that it won't, especially as Sanders's momentum continues to build as the more diverse/progressive states start voting. We all saw what happened in the last round of caucuses.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)

Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
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