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Fuck You, Snyder...
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RE: Fuck You, Snyder...
(April 20, 2016 at 11:58 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Media seems to think a truck load of powdered lead was dumped in the water to kill people.  I guess I'm not seeing that level of connivance with a pH issue.

As usual no one has a clue as to what the hell is going on.  21 States don't test for lead in water at all.  The others use different procedures so the results might be worthless.  

"Want to know how bad lead poisoning is in your city? Good luck."

"Every state measures lead exposure differently

If you want to understand the scope of America's lead exposure data problem, it's best to start with this map my colleague Sarah Frostenson made. It shows that only 26 states report lead poisoning cases to the federal government's central database, maintained by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention."

http://www.vox.com/2016/2/17/11034642/le...stics-data

Chances are if your neighbors aren't idiots the water won't kill you.
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RE: Fuck You, Snyder...
(April 20, 2016 at 10:55 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: It's my understanding the pH of the water is what corroded the pipes downstream from the water plant and released lead present in those pipes.  The Flint River isn't 'leaded', so drinking water straight from the water department plant isn't dangerous. No filter needed.

Any house with PVC, water mains made of steel/cast iron/logs (Chicago has these) wouldn't be a problem.  And JFC, who since the fucking Romans 2000 years ago used lead to make pipes?  (the Roman pipes were actually safe since they had hard water that precipitated a protective coating inside the plumbing containing the lead content, BTW).

Am I missing something about the Flint River then ?

The Flint river itself has been found to have high levels of chloride, which seems to be the cause of the corrosion.  I read another source that said the river is also tainted with sewage, farm run-off  and industrial waste.

But yeah, the main problem is that the pipes were from the early 20th century and made of lead, and the river corroded the pipes which tainted the water.   I don't think, however, the river is clean enough that anyone would have the confidence to drink it straight from the water plant.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#13
RE: Fuck You, Snyder...
EPA asleep at the switch again, and their test protocol should be the one the rest of the 'sturbs are trying to measure up to, IF the EPA can be bothered to do their fucking job.

No shortage of bad actors in this cluster fuck.

Seems like my oft repeated complaints about excessively duplicative redundant governmental redundancies and duplications is ringing a little more truer every day.
 The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it. 




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RE: Fuck You, Snyder...
(April 21, 2016 at 3:20 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: EPA asleep at the switch again, and their test protocol should be the one the rest of the 'sturbs are trying to measure up to, IF the EPA can be bothered to do their fucking job.

No shortage of bad actors in this cluster fuck.

Seems like my oft repeated complaints about excessively duplicative redundant governmental redundancies and duplications is ringing a little more truer every day.
Some people want to eliminate the EPA, which will result in even less oversight than there is now.  It seems that it's the States' job to test their water.  And we know how some folks want the States to run things.
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