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RE: The Myth of Infallibility
April 29, 2016 at 9:20 am
(April 29, 2016 at 1:34 am)vorlon13 Wrote: All scripture is suitable . . . .
If there was any included error or mistake, that would be unsuitable.
The Bible does make the claim. And for believers, that otta do it.
You not considering the element of atonement God offers through Christ when we willfully sin.
IF God can forgive an intentional evil, then how much more forgiveness will their be when we are doing our best by following His word?
God's bible is His responsibility to maintain, Change or forgive us when we follow it and something is not right.
That is why/how the bible is 'suitable.'
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RE: The Myth of Infallibility
April 29, 2016 at 9:25 am
(April 27, 2016 at 3:53 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Titus 1:12-13 One of the Cretans, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons." This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith.
The statement is paradoxical.
maybe this will help you untie the knot of paradoxy:
11 These people must be stopped, because they are destroying whole families by teaching what they should not teach. They teach only to cheat people and make money. 12 Even one of their own prophets said, “Cretans are always liars. They are evil animals and lazy people who do nothing but eat.” 13 The words that prophet said are true. So tell those people that they are wrong. You must be strict with them. Then they will become strong in the faith,
It's called a contextual reading.
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RE: The Myth of Infallibility
April 29, 2016 at 9:26 am
(April 29, 2016 at 9:20 am)Drich Wrote: (April 29, 2016 at 1:34 am)vorlon13 Wrote: All scripture is suitable . . . .
If there was any included error or mistake, that would be unsuitable.
The Bible does make the claim. And for believers, that otta do it.
You not considering the element of atonement God offers through Christ when we willfully sin.
IF God can forgive an intentional evil, then how much more forgiveness will their be when we are doing our best by following His word?
God's bible is His responsibility to maintain, Change or forgive us when we follow it and something is not right.
That is why/how the bible is 'suitable.'
He's been pretty poor at maintaining his fucking book then eh? How many versions?
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RE: The Myth of Infallibility
April 29, 2016 at 9:29 am
(April 29, 2016 at 9:20 am)Drich Wrote: (April 29, 2016 at 1:34 am)vorlon13 Wrote: All scripture is suitable . . . .
If there was any included error or mistake, that would be unsuitable.
The Bible does make the claim. And for believers, that otta do it.
You not considering the element of atonement God offers through Christ when we willfully sin.
IF God can forgive an intentional evil, then how much more forgiveness will their be when we are doing our best by following His word?
God's bible is His responsibility to maintain, Change or forgive us when we follow it and something is not right.
That is why/how the bible is 'suitable.'
So, then there is unsuitable scripture?
Please provide the verse(s).
thank you
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RE: The Myth of Infallibility
April 29, 2016 at 9:34 am
(April 29, 2016 at 9:26 am)TubbyTubby Wrote: (April 29, 2016 at 9:20 am)Drich Wrote: You not considering the element of atonement God offers through Christ when we willfully sin.
IF God can forgive an intentional evil, then how much more forgiveness will their be when we are doing our best by following His word?
God's bible is His responsibility to maintain, Change or forgive us when we follow it and something is not right.
That is why/how the bible is 'suitable.'
He's been pretty poor at maintaining his fucking book then eh? How many versions?
There are only two Primary Koine Greek Codecs from which all bibles originate in English. (unless your catholic then the vulgate can be added to the list)
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RE: The Myth of Infallibility
April 29, 2016 at 9:36 am
There are multiple translations because we have so many different languages. There are multiple versions in a given language to correspond to reading comprehension, writing styles and doctrine in the case of a contextual translation.
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RE: The Myth of Infallibility
April 29, 2016 at 9:37 am
(April 29, 2016 at 9:29 am)vorlon13 Wrote: (April 29, 2016 at 9:20 am)Drich Wrote: You not considering the element of atonement God offers through Christ when we willfully sin.
IF God can forgive an intentional evil, then how much more forgiveness will their be when we are doing our best by following His word?
God's bible is His responsibility to maintain, Change or forgive us when we follow it and something is not right.
That is why/how the bible is 'suitable.'
So, then there is unsuitable scripture?
Please provide the verse(s).
thank you
Begs the question.
Where in what I said did you derive that there are unsuitable scripture?
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RE: The Myth of Infallibility
April 29, 2016 at 11:43 am
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(April 29, 2016 at 9:25 am)Drich Wrote: (April 27, 2016 at 3:53 pm)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: Titus 1:12-13 One of the Cretans, a prophet of their own, said, “Cretans are always liars, evil beasts, lazy gluttons." This saying is true. Therefore rebuke them sharply, so that they will be sound in the faith.
The statement is paradoxical.
maybe this will help you untie the knot of paradoxy:
11 These people must be stopped, because they are destroying whole families by teaching what they should not teach. They teach only to cheat people and make money. 12 Even one of their own prophets said, “Cretans are always liars. They are evil animals and lazy people who do nothing but eat.” 13 The words that prophet said are true. So tell those people that they are wrong. You must be strict with them. Then they will become strong in the faith,
It's called a contextual reading.
It's still a paradox, dummy.
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RE: The Myth of Infallibility
April 29, 2016 at 1:59 pm
(April 29, 2016 at 11:43 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: (April 29, 2016 at 9:25 am)Drich Wrote: maybe this will help you untie the knot of paradoxy:
11 These people must be stopped, because they are destroying whole families by teaching what they should not teach. They teach only to cheat people and make money. 12 Even one of their own prophets said, “Cretans are always liars. They are evil animals and lazy people who do nothing but eat.” 13 The words that prophet said are true. So tell those people that they are wrong. You must be strict with them. Then they will become strong in the faith,
It's called a contextual reading.
It's still a paradox, dummy.
please explain the paradox.
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RE: The Myth of Infallibility
April 29, 2016 at 2:09 pm
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(April 29, 2016 at 1:59 pm)Drich Wrote: (April 29, 2016 at 11:43 am)ApeNotKillApe Wrote: It's still a paradox, dummy.
please explain the paradox.
Paul thinks the Cretan prophet was telling the truth when he declared all Cretans are liars. If all Cretans are liars, the Cretan prophet who said that Cretans are liars is also a liar, meaning the statement is false, meaning not all Cretans are liars, meaning the prophet is a liar, meaning that not all Cretans are liars, meaning the prophet is a liar, and so on. Paul declares the statement to be true when it can't be.
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