Lifespan 1000 years to 80?

[Drich]

Pretty sure that you are, and what's worse you are defiantly standing in your ignorance.
I have made provisions in my arguments that also predate the Religion to 4000 BC. But at the sametime pointout that back then, their was not a standard calendar being used by the world. So even if these people over here used this calendar it did not mean a given nomadic tribe in the region did. Furthermore I have supported the argument that the Jews did not use a 365 day calendar by show you goof balls that they do not use a 365 day calendar NOW, while the whole rest of the world uses this standard so why would you assume they would use one then!?!?

Nice try at goalpost shifting, dude. The people in discussion aren't the 4000 year old men you're talking about, but how they were described by people who wrote the Old Testament, sometime between 1300 BCE and 700 BCE, depending on whom you're asking to date the Bible stories. In either case, the men who wrote the stories would have used their version of years... which, even if it's not a 365 1/4 day calendar, is nevertheless very close to a year as we would measure it. In other words, not nearly long enough for the time distortions which you are alleging to have happened.

which is 2600 years AFTER THE TIME PERIOD BEING DISCUSSED!
I clearly state after the exodus the Jews adopted the calendar they have now. (which was in the time of Moses 1400+ years before "we three kings) which came +1200 years after noah, which is 1400 after Adam. (depending on what a year was then) Which is whom this thread is about (or Methuselah) as they were the only two nearing the 1000 year mark.

Again, see the above.

Again since you can't be bother to actually read what I have already said, and therefore can not speak topically I will not go into further detail other than to say the "We" in "We don't know" is not limited to Apologetics. I have conclusively shown that The "WE" in "We don't know" refers to all fields of study concerning this particular region and this particular people, in the time frame being discussed.

If you are going to dismiss the bible as factually recording the life and events of the Pre-Israel Patriarchs then you've disqualified yourself from the entire discussion.

I agree with you that the people who wrote the Old Testament had no way of knowing, other than some oral traditions which were handed down (and influenced, very obviously, by the Sumerian god-king mythologies from the culture they had left, according to the story of Abraham), what happened in 4000 BCE. Nevertheless my point remains that their descriptions of the Patriarchs, which just happen to coincide with the ages of those Sumerian kings, is a borrowed-and-adapted set of stories, and there is zero reason to believe that the writers didn't know what a year was, or that they intended to write anything other than an exact number of years they were alleging that the Patriarchs lived.

Take your sneering derision and shove it up your ass, from whence you seem to pull the rest of the bullshit you're trying to feed us, here.

Again read the OP. We are indeed talking about a man's age who lived 6000 years ago/4000 years older than your "wise men."

You are the one shifting the goal posts.

Also I noted you did not actually cite any "Sumerian god-king mythologies " wonder why? oh, that's right that's a copout argument sudo intellectuals use to try and dismiss something without actually having to quote anything of substance, nor draw parallels to properly refute it.

Nice try, but again if your going down that path you disqualify yourself from a honest discussion.

[TheRocketSurgeon]

Again read the OP. We are indeed talking about a man's age who lived 6000 years ago/4000 years older than your "wise men."

You are the one shifting the goal posts.

Also I noted you did not actually cite any "Sumerian god-king mythologies " wonder why? oh, that's right that's a copout argument sudo intellectuals use to try and dismiss something without actually having to quote anything of substance, nor draw parallels to properly refute it.

Nice try, but again if your going down that path you disqualify yourself from a honest discussion.

You mean these Sumerian god-kings? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumerian_King_List

I refer, of course, to the alignment with the First Dynasty of Kish, after the flood of Utnapishtim. And don't go trying to give me that apologist website crap about it "confirming" the Bible story that came after it; all your claims about Jewish lunar month-based timekeeping doesn't match and, as he been pointed out to you, would make half the guys on the list fathers at the age of five (actual) years old, and so on.

And FFS, dude, the word is "pseudo". If you're going to insult my intelligence by trying to sound like an intellectual, yourself, you should probably spell the insult in some way that indicates you have some idea of the actual meaning of the word you're trying to use as a pejorative, and aren't just phonetically copying the sounds you heard someone use as an insult, once.

[SofaKingHigh]

I honestly can't believe we're seriously debating someone who actually believes that Human Beings have lived for anywhere near a thousand years.

Before you know it, we'll be talking about universal laws being delivered by a burning bush, slavery being A-OK and how a big boat saved every species on Earth from the vengeance of a benevolent creator....

....hang on......

[Pat Mustard]

So let me get this straight, Drich's argument is that the canaanites who originally told the stories considered a month to be a year (despite every knownbfucking civilisation having a relevantly decent idea of the length of a year for farming reasons alone), yet when their descendants the jews came to write it down they had figured out the length of a year yet kept the old reckoning in even though it made for a massive and obvious hole in their "revealed truth" that you could drive a carriage and eight through?

What a fucking idiot.

[Cyberman]

So to sum up...

The calendar as we know it probably meant something different thousands of years ago, because we just can't know how agrarian cultures measured seasons that they depended on - therefore every interpretation is up for grabs and that's how lifespans of centuries can be shoehorned into those of humans.

Meanwhile, we're the stupid ones for believing that humans have never been able to live for thousands of years.

Man, I can't wait for the next episode.

[LadyForCamus]

I honestly can't believe we're seriously debating someone who actually believes that Human Beings have lived for anywhere near a thousand years.

Before you know it, we'll be talking about universal laws being delivered by a burning bush, slavery being A-OK and how a big boat saved every species on Earth from the vengeance of a benevolent creator....

....hang on......

Just another day in the life here at AF, eh? [emoji12]