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Hillary or Trump: Which of These is the Lesser of Two Evils?
RE: Hillary or Trump: Which of These is the Lesser of Two Evils?
(May 14, 2016 at 4:03 pm)abaris Wrote:
(May 14, 2016 at 3:59 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Provide some facts so I know what you are talking about.

Read his biography. Read what he says. It's so easy and so much in the public domain that you're an idiot for not seeing it. There's nothing to provide other than what the horse's mouth is telling you anyway. But since you eagerly gobble up every turd that coincides with your personal prejudices and simplistic view of the world, you can't see it. Which was never up for debate. Not with anyone posting Alex Jones in hopes of leaving an impression.

Most of it sounds good to me which is why I'm asking what you don't like about it.
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RE: Hillary or Trump: Which of These is the Lesser of Two Evils?
(May 14, 2016 at 4:08 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Most of it sounds good to me which is why I'm asking what you don't like about it.

Well, that would be because we don't share the same prejudices and simplicity.
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RE: Hillary or Trump: Which of These is the Lesser of Two Evils?
(May 14, 2016 at 4:09 pm)abaris Wrote:
(May 14, 2016 at 4:08 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Most of it sounds good to me which is why I'm asking what you don't like about it.

Well, that would be because we don't share the same prejudices and simplicity.

Got it, you have no argument. You are just going along with the rest of the crazy people. Plus you are not from the US, so you really don't have any real world experiences, which is why I understand your lack of information. Good luck with the Muslim invasion this year. The world is watching.
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RE: Hillary or Trump: Which of These is the Lesser of Two Evils?
(May 14, 2016 at 4:42 am)abaris Wrote:
(May 14, 2016 at 12:37 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: It boggles my mind that there isn't a fiscally conservative, socially liberal alternative.

If I look at the States, I'm asking myself what this fiscally conservative mantra even means. Taxes are wasted on the largest possible scale by both parties. It's only that it's not to the benefit of the people at large. It's to subsidize corporations already making huge profits and it's to finance a behemoth of an army and largely futile foreign interventions. At the same time, when visiting some rural areas or even the outskirts of the large hubs, the infrastructure gives the impression of a third world country. Crumbling roads and landlines everywhere.

That won't change, as long as there isn't a third party making a real impact. The dems and repubs have divided the country and it's assets between them. And both of them answer to big money and not the people, since hardly any canidate can hope to win an election without taking the so called donations. At least on the federal level.
People bitch and whine about the big bribes in elections but they usually vote for the guy who gets the biggest bribes.
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RE: Hillary or Trump: Which of These is the Lesser of Two Evils?
(May 14, 2016 at 4:14 pm)scoobysnack Wrote: Got it, you have no argument.

No, it's just that he's the impersonation of everything I find despicable in humanity. You subscribe to him, good for you. But if you had at least a shred of economical or political knowledge, you wouldn't. Well, that pretty much sums it up. You're an idiot in my book, ready to be fucked and ask for a second helping. Pathetic. Sorry for making it that clear, but everyone following such an obvious con can be assured of my undivided contempt.
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RE: Hillary or Trump: Which of These is the Lesser of Two Evils?
(May 14, 2016 at 4:19 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: People bitch and whine about the big bribes in elections but they usually vote for the guy who gets the biggest bribes.

And why would that be? Come on, it's not rocket science.
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RE: Hillary or Trump: Which of These is the Lesser of Two Evils?
(May 14, 2016 at 11:43 am)Rhondazvous Wrote:
(May 13, 2016 at 7:15 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Trump will win the election.  Get used to the idea.
Does your shirt happen to be brown?

We shall see.
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RE: Hillary or Trump: Which of These is the Lesser of Two Evils?
(May 14, 2016 at 12:39 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote:
(May 13, 2016 at 10:25 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: All Presidents have been racists.  If Trump can get rid of the illegals he will be the best racist since Eisenhower.
There's more to running a country than solving one problem, especially when in the process you're going to cause ten others.

Trump believes in trickle down economics. He believes it's bad to tax the rich. I read this in his own book. That means the money for his wall is coming out of your pocket if you have a job and aren't making a telephone number salary yourself.
Since I will benefit from the wall why would I whine about forking over a few bucks to help pay for it?
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RE: Hillary or Trump: Which of These is the Lesser of Two Evils?
(May 14, 2016 at 11:37 am)abaris Wrote:
(May 14, 2016 at 11:33 am)IATIA Wrote: I believe the media to be largely at fault.  The 'sheeple' of America will usually ignore the third party as the media promotes (depending on bias) the two major parties and downplays the third.  The 'sheeple' being afraid to 'waste' their vote on the third party, inevitably got for "the lesser of two evils".

The problem is the majority suffrage. During the 80ies, green parties made it into the parliaments of most Western countries. Although their coverage was as bad as it is in America. The winner takes it all system cements the two party system. When it comes to presidential elections, you can just as well flush your vote down the toilet as voting for a third party candidate. The effect is the same.


If voting for who I think is the best candidate is flushing my vote down the toilet, then voting for a worse candidate would also be flushing it down the toilet. If they actually win, then it's even worse. Then it's like pulling your vote, still-steaming, back out of the toilet, lighting it on fire, and hurling it at others.
Verbatim from the mouth of Jesus (retranslated from a retranslation of a copy of a copy):

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you too will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. How can you see your brother's head up his ass when your own vision is darkened by your head being even further up your ass? How can you say to your brother, 'Get your head out of your ass,' when all the time your head is up your own ass? You hypocrite! First take your head out of your own ass, and then you will see clearly who has his head up his ass and who doesn't." Matthew 7:1-5 (also Luke 6: 41-42)

Also, I has a website: www.RedbeardThePink.com
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RE: Hillary or Trump: Which of These is the Lesser of Two Evils?
(May 14, 2016 at 2:22 pm)Jenny A Wrote: He's  a con man. Trump University is a classic con. Claiming to be self funded and then paying yourself back with donations is a con.  He stirs up racial and class hatred intentionally.  He threatens to sue or jail his opponents.  He wants to curtail free speech.  He likes torture and suggests killing the families of terrorists.   His policies on the stump and on his website don't match.  He promises the moon but his ideas for achiving that are ludicrous and change with the wind. He's a demagogue.  

What is there to like about him?

If we would have killed Bin Laden's son when we blew his brains out we wouldn't have to fight him now. 
http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/13/world/bin-...-al-qaeda/
 So if you shoot one shoot all of them at the same time.  It's biblical.
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