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There is no "I" in "You"
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(May 19, 2016 at 3:57 pm)quip Wrote: Though A still identifies as A in B's body. You still haven't determined why or how A must identify as C ..or what that even entails. I've already given you an example which you've neatly ignored. I've laid out how my own body has changed, and how that has affected my mentality. Rather than address that, you seem to prefer bandying words.
What Buddhist beliefs do you have Quip? Any supernatural ones? Karma? Afterlife?
(May 19, 2016 at 5:43 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(May 19, 2016 at 3:57 pm)quip Wrote: Though A still identifies as A in B's body. You still haven't determined why or how A must identify as C ..or what that even entails. I thought I did address that one...and a kudos to boot! Scroll back a bit...I would but I'm too lazy! RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 5:50 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2016 at 5:59 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 19, 2016 at 5:40 pm)quip Wrote: Liar? I fail to follow that sublime logic.Unsurprising....but let me lay it out for you. Are you here to present a paradoxical riddle which demonstrates the inadequacy of reason? Apparently not. We still haven't seen one, or even an attempt. Are you here to provide a reasonable doubt to the atheist perspective? Apparently not, because reason is inadequate...and I haven't seen you even mention any gods. Are you here to serve as a springboard for debate and introspection? Apparently not, because you refuse to participate by stating exactly what it is we're supposed to be debating, or suggesting any focus for introspection. Quote:I told you that I'm saying nothing at all, nonsense, woo.I expect otherwise because you have made many claims to "otherwise"............and I expect more than pointless trolling regardless. I recall, for example, one of your very first posts..that referenced demonstrable truths, and not only that, you told us that this was what buddhism -was-. Two truths, a counter, and a method to free oneself....of -whatever it is you refuse to say-. Hey, maybe we could even hear -some- elaboration...on the godamned thread title.....sigh. If you have nothing to say, why waste so many words?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
(May 19, 2016 at 5:43 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: What Buddhist beliefs do you have Quip? Any supernatural ones? Karma? Afterlife? I've a more philosophical bent on Buddhism (Rather than a traditional ritualistic based one.) Karma - no not beyond causes and effects. Rebirth - Yes. As opposed to reincarnation (a subtle but important distinction) Emptiness - Sunyata Anatta - no self etc.... (May 19, 2016 at 5:31 pm)quip Wrote: Though Descartes has been historically, thoroughly questioned that's not what's being question here. You appear to have ignored the rest of my post which addressed your primary question, in favour of passing comments regarding a subordinate clause which was only there to head off a common attempt to skirt my statement. Have you any thoughts on my post?
Sum ergo sum
I'd agree with the OP title. There is no "I" in me for that would require me to be inside myself.
RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 5:58 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2016 at 6:04 pm by quip.)
(May 19, 2016 at 5:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote: [quote='quip' pid='1278566' dateline='1463694043']Unsurprising....but let me lay it out for you. Are you here to present a paradoxical riddle which demonstrates the inadequacy of reason? Apparently not. We still haven't seen one, or even an attempt. Are you here to provide a reasonable doubt to the atheist perspective? Apparently not, because reason is inadequate...and I haven't seen you even mention any gods. Are you here to serve as a springboard for debate and introspection? Apparently not, because you refuse to participate by stating exactly what it is we're supposed to be debating, or suggesting any focus for introspection. [/quote] Sorry if I'm unavailable to rationally enumerate the inadequacy of reason for you. Though it takes two to Tango...ya keep refusing all requests to dance. I'm still not convinced of the thought processes that concluded with "liar" here..but I digress. Quote:[quote]I expect otherwise because you have made many claims to "otherwise"............and I expect more than pointless trolling regardless. [/quote] That seems to be wholly directed by you. You claimed I was saying nothing...I simply agreed with you, yet now I'm not! Would you make up my mind? (May 19, 2016 at 5:50 pm)Ben Davis Wrote: [quote='quip' pid='1278555' dateline='1463693464'] You appear to have ignored the rest of my post which addressed your primary question, in favour of passing comments regarding a subordinate clause which was only there to head off a common attempt to skirt my statement. Have you any thoughts on my post? [/quote] No it doesn't. (May 19, 2016 at 5:58 pm)quip Wrote: [quote='Rhythm' pid='1278586' dateline='1463694618'] Sorry if I'm unavailable to rationally enumerate the inadequacy of reason for you. Though it takes two to Tango...ya keep refusing all requests to dance. I'm still not convinced of the thought processes that concluded with "liar" here..but I digress. Quote:I expect otherwise because you have made many claims to "otherwise"............and I expect more than pointless trolling regardless. That seems to be wholly directed by you. You claimed I was saying nothing...I simply agreed with you, yet now I'm not! Would you make up my mind? (May 19, 2016 at 5:50 pm)Ben Davis Wrote: You appear to have ignored the rest of my post which addressed your primary question, in favour of passing comments regarding a subordinate clause which was only there to head off a common attempt to skirt my statement.No, it doesn't. [/quote] (May 19, 2016 at 5:58 pm)quip Wrote: [quote='Rhythm' pid='1278586' dateline='1463694618'] Sorry if I'm unavailable to rationally enumerate the inadequacy of reason for you. Though it takes two to Tango...ya keep refusing all requests to dance. I'm still not convinced of the thought processes that concluded with "liar" here..but I digress. Quote:I expect otherwise because you have made many claims to "otherwise"............and I expect more than pointless trolling regardless. That seems to be wholly directed by you. You claimed I was saying nothing...I simply agreed with you, yet now I'm not! Would you make up my mind? (May 19, 2016 at 5:50 pm)Ben Davis Wrote: You appear to have ignored the rest of my post which addressed your primary question, in favour of passing comments regarding a subordinate clause which was only there to head off a common attempt to skirt my statement. No it doesn't. I'm not attempting to ascertain or refute the existence of the self. RE: There is no "I" in "You"
May 19, 2016 at 6:03 pm
(This post was last modified: May 19, 2016 at 6:05 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 19, 2016 at 5:58 pm)quip Wrote: Sorry if I'm unavailable to rationally enumerate the inadequacy of reason for you. Though it takes two to Tango...ya keep refusing all requests to dance.Strange, I remember trying to answer each of your questions in earnest, even after if became apparent that you were a fraud, as did many others. In fact......there's this thing called a forum, upon which records of conversations are kept - to which you could refer. Quote:I'm still not convinced of the thought processes that concluded with "liar" here..but I digress.Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't make myself clear? You're here to troll and tell we unenlightened atheists how wrong we are...about whatever it is you think we're wrong about....not for any of the reasons you've claimed in this thread. Quote:That seems to be wholly directed by you. You claimed I was saying nothing...I simply agreed with you, yet now I'm not! Would you make up my mind?I am pretty good at pulling troll-strings. I have alot of practice. Hell, it might even be my specialty, come to think of it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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