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RE: Question About Transsexuality and Atheism
May 30, 2016 at 7:30 pm
(May 30, 2016 at 5:24 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (May 30, 2016 at 5:14 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Orthodox atheism?
Oh no.
Do we have a silly hat, too?
I have never wanted anything more than I want that hat.
It's apparently called a Squid Hat. They are available.
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/squid-hat
There is even a Pirate version for Pastafarians.
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RE: Question About Transsexuality and Atheism
May 31, 2016 at 8:48 am
(May 30, 2016 at 7:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote: (May 30, 2016 at 5:24 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I have never wanted anything more than I want that hat.
It's apparently called a Squid Hat. They are available.
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/squid-hat
There is even a Pirate version for Pastafarians.
Thank you Min.
Might get myself the Pirate one.
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RE: Question About Transsexuality and Atheism
May 31, 2016 at 9:53 pm
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RE: Question About Transsexuality and Atheism
May 31, 2016 at 10:44 pm
Isn't it just hormones which dictate whether you align with males or females?
Hormones dictate who we are. What genitalia you end up with at birth is genetic pot luck.
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RE: Question About Transsexuality and Atheism
May 31, 2016 at 10:59 pm
(May 31, 2016 at 10:44 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Isn't it just hormones which dictate whether you align with males or females?
Hormones dictate who we are. What genitalia you end up with at birth is genetic pot luck. They are linked though, since it's the genitals that produce the hormones that cause secondary sex characteristics
That's why pre-op transgender people are recommended to take blockers for their natural hormones as well as the artificial "opposite sex" hormones, to get the best results. I'm not sure, but I think it might even be unhealthy not to block your natural hormones while taking artificial ones. It's only once they go full transsex and get "the surgery" that they come off the drugs that would block their natural hormones, since their body wouldn't produce them then.
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RE: Question About Transsexuality and Atheism
June 1, 2016 at 12:19 am
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(May 31, 2016 at 10:59 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: (May 31, 2016 at 10:44 pm)ignoramus Wrote: Isn't it just hormones which dictate whether you align with males or females?
Hormones dictate who we are. What genitalia you end up with at birth is genetic pot luck. They are linked though, since it's the genitals that produce the hormones that cause secondary sex characteristics
That's why pre-op transgender people are recommended to take blockers for their natural hormones as well as the artificial "opposite sex" hormones, to get the best results. I'm not sure, but I think it might even be unhealthy not to block your natural hormones while taking artificial ones. It's only once they go full transsex and get "the surgery" that they come off the drugs that would block their natural hormones, since their body wouldn't produce them then.
Thanks for answering that, I was always curious about that. Now I have questions for the people on this thread. When a person does complete the gender change, is there is some kind of honor code? Say for example your talking to a girl who was once a man and you want to hook up for a one night stand. Do they give them a warning such as "I like you, but I use to be a man", or does it go by a case by case basis? Would it also be wrong of them for a male who became a woman to sleep with someone, and not tell them before hand? I think it should be common practice just like, "I have warts, or I have calamity".
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RE: Question About Transsexuality and Atheism
June 1, 2016 at 12:32 am
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RE: Question About Transsexuality and Atheism
June 1, 2016 at 9:03 am
(June 1, 2016 at 12:19 am)Sterben Wrote: (May 31, 2016 at 10:59 pm)Yeauxleaux Wrote: They are linked though, since it's the genitals that produce the hormones that cause secondary sex characteristics
That's why pre-op transgender people are recommended to take blockers for their natural hormones as well as the artificial "opposite sex" hormones, to get the best results. I'm not sure, but I think it might even be unhealthy not to block your natural hormones while taking artificial ones. It's only once they go full transsex and get "the surgery" that they come off the drugs that would block their natural hormones, since their body wouldn't produce them then.
Thanks for answering that, I was always curious about that. Now I have questions for the people on this thread. When a person does complete the gender change, is there is some kind of honor code? Say for example your talking to a girl who was once a man and you want to hook up for a one night stand. Do they give them a warning such as "I like you, but I use to be a man", or does it go by a case by case basis? Would it also be wrong of them for a male who became a woman to sleep with someone, and not tell them before hand? I think it should be common practice just like, "I have warts, or I have calamity". A warning is given when there is danger. When there is no danger, it's not a warning. It's just information. More like "Hey, I have a porcelain tooth"
Only in the case of long term relationships when the information is likely to come out, it's best to be up front than let the person discover it from somewhere else.
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RE: Question About Transsexuality and Atheism
June 1, 2016 at 10:46 am
(May 30, 2016 at 4:50 pm)Rhondazvous Wrote: It occurred to me that this is counter to the idea of orthodox atheism, which asserts that there is no “I,” no part of a human being that is separate from the body.
Atheism is just not having the belief that gods exist.
"Orthodox atheism" is nonsense; there's no such thing.
Most Buddhists, to take one example, are atheists who believe in souls.
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