Gorilla killed

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Maybe the gorilla got killed because it was black.  The shooter was a white guy.  The incident happened in Cincinnati, a racist town. So the shooter took it upon himself to end the black menace.    
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Wait... Wasn't the kid black as well? What happened - did they run out of bullets?

They'll shoot the kid in a couple of years.  Keep watching.  Didn't you see the video?

[Pat Mustard]

Wow, must be some sort of a new trend...

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/22/americ...cide-trnd/

A zoo killed two lions to save a man who jumped into the big cats' enclosure in the Chilean capital.

The man climbed over the fence Saturday and removed his clothes before approaching the lions, according to a statement posted on the Santiago Metropolitan Zoo Facebook page.[...]

[...]Once he had entered the enclosure, the intruder removed his clothes he began to bother the lions, to jump towards them and to chant "very apocalyptic, very religious" proverbs, the park's director, Mauricio Fabry told CNN. He was mauled by the lions, which began dragging him to their den, before they were shot.

If some nut got naked and started chanting religious bullsh*t at me - I'd f*cking maul him...

If its an adult its their own bleddy fault if they get et.

[Pat Mustard]

Did she give a shout-out to the team that saved her child's life? If so, not a douche.

She most certainly did, both times.

“We are so thankful to the Lord that our child is safe. He is home and doing just fine. We extend our heartfelt thanks for the quick action by the Cincinnati Zoo staff. We know that this was a very difficult decision for them, and that they are grieving the loss of their gorilla.”

"We continue to praise God for His grace and mercy, and to be thankful to the Cincinnati Zoo for their actions taken to protect our child. Some have offered money to the family, which we do not want and will not accept," the family said. "If anyone wishes to make a gift, we recommend a donation to the Cincinnati Zoo in Harambe's name."

Still very douchy, relegating those who saved her child to a distant second place behind a big beard in the sky.

Oh and why didn't she thank god for putting her child there in the first place?

[Catholic_Lady]

Fair enough then. Though I don't agree that being grateful to God when something good happens is a douchey thing for a believer to do.

I understand how you guys see the whole "thanks to God" thing as being narcissistic, I really do. But the point is others who believe differently may see it completely differently. As for us, we see thanking God as a sign of humility which is the complete opposite of narcissism. Personally when I thank God for something it reminds me how small and vulnerable I am to the universe and it makes me grateful for every second and every good thing I have, particularly because I know so many others don't have the same. Narcissism is the last thing from my mind. I feel unworthy and humbled, and it reminds me that I need to give back with what I was given. I mean, is that douchey??  

....That just goes to show how much we see and think differently. So I don't understand how you can assign your own way of thinking to others and then think they're douchey for it, when the way they see it is completely different. The point is I just feel like sometimes some of you can be as judgmental as the evangelicals you love to criticize.

Anyway, this was an off topic rant, so sorry. Sorry for the overall drama I started in this thread. I shouldn't be on AF so much right now. I need to go for a walk anyway.  

Back to the topic.... 

I hope you don't walk away. I felt a lot of your post was spot on. Especially that which i underlined.

Hey, thank you. I appreciate it. 
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I'm still here. Just shouldn't delve so deep into discussions on this forum because being pregnant makes me extra emotional/cranky or whatever and I end up losing my cool about things, like what happened here. Though I still stand by every word, it's probably not good for me.

[brewer]

Design flaw by the zoo architect. Not only is it their responsibility to keep the animals in and safe, it is also their responsibility to keep the humans (and other noxious species) out. Additionally, people attending should not be able to introduce foreign objects into enclosures. It's done all of the time.

[Catholic_Lady]

I followed you up to this retarded point.

None of us wished the death of the child, but some of us neither wished the death of the gorilla.

I actually agree with the assessment that the gorilla was actually acting in a manner to protect the child from the angry, screaming crowd above.  You can disagree with that.

I will further state that there are powerful tranquilizers that are created to take an animal down quickly.  Those taking the side of the zoo that state the tranquilizers would take up to thirty minutes to take effect are utter retards.

Again, you can be a douche in disagreeing with me, you can be retarded in disagreeing with me.  It is your right to have your own opinion.

I am a douche and a retard for disagreeing? How charitable, despite your recognition of my right to do so.

I have no doubt that most everyone would have preferred an outcome similar to that in a similar instance at the Brookfield Zoo in Chicago in 1996; one in which there was no loss of life. The difference being that the gorilla in that case immediately and tenderly took the child directly to zookeepers. What I could not let go was the sentiment attending 'feeling sorrier for Harambe's family than anyone else involved' and the justifications registered in its defense.

Conversations about habitat encroachment and the practice of confining animals in zoos are perfectly reasonable topics for discussion and I think we would find a lot of common ground; however, when a four year old child's life is in danger nobody is going to assemble a committee for debate prior to taking action. It's almost as if you would have me believe that if it was your four year old child's mortality at stake that you would simply let nature take its course. Had Harambe not been shot, nobody knows what would have happened, least of all YouTube video observers with no expertise in dealing with these creatures in general or with Harambe in particular. The quality of the exhibit's barrier, which had worked for 38 years, and the attentiveness of the parent are fucking irrelevant considerations once child meets gorilla face to face.

If I am to be the standard bearer for doucheism and retardation for doing nothing more than offering reasoned consideration different from your expert opinion then I shall endeavor to find the tallest mast from which to fly those colors.

One of the most sensible posts I've read all thread. Agree 100%.

[LastPoet]

Tranquilizers are designed by animal type.  They are also designed by maximum efficiency in unconsciousness.  If anything, you are the retard.

The efficacy of such a tranquilizer, to drop a gorilla fast enough his organism can transport it via bloodstream to the brain, still leaves about enough time for the animal panic to harm the child. If the dosage for such an effect didn't kill the gorilla after that.

There is a reason they are called "tranquilizers". They are designed to act slowly, mostly for the sake of the animal.

[Pat Mustard]

OK, but nobody can say that the gorilla's rough natural style of protectiveness wouldn't have killed the boy 3 minutes later as he picked him up by the leg to take him to another shelf banging his head along the way.

No one would or should risk it if you put human life above all others.
That's a topic for another day.

Oh, you're a psychic now.  Congrats.

You're the one predicting the gorilla wouldn't kill the toddler, despite being a large unpredictable animal which could have killed the child literally without trying, who was in a deeply agitated state.

Methinks you're the psychic.

[lanapoland1973]

Maybe if the parents were more protective and watched the child better. It is a parents job to watch their kids. Maybe you can't watch all the time, but near a gorilla enclosure it was really really necessary. Now an innocent animal is dead because of a negligent parent. That was the animals enclosure, it's wild, it's home....it reacted natural, that is why it was in enclosure in first place. It was curious. Shame on you.

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[energizer bunny]

I hope you don't walk away. I felt a lot of your post was spot on. Especially that which i underlined.

Hey, thank you. I appreciate it. 
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I'm still here. Just shouldn't delve so deep into discussions on this forum because being pregnant makes me extra emotional/cranky or whatever and I end up losing my cool about things, like what happened here. Though I still stand by every word, it's probably not good for me.

Oh i see. Though you held your own pretty well.