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Sexual addiction
#11
RE: Sexual addiction
Nailed it, Steel.
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#12
RE: Sexual addiction
(June 8, 2016 at 12:55 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(June 7, 2016 at 12:16 pm)Dust_bunny Wrote: Why does sexual addiction usually end in the death of feelings, or some painful drama or heartbreak? Why cant humans fuction correctly when they are madly desiring someone?

Because when sex is an addiction, you are not madly desiring someone. You are madly desiring sex. Other people get swallowed up and spit out used because the primary focus tends to be in gaining that 'high' rather than having a mutually beneficial experience. This destroys relationships, and eventually your social pool from which to draw partners dries up. Then trouble follows.

(June 7, 2016 at 12:16 pm)Dust_bunny Wrote: What if two people who just madly desired one another, just kept having great sex happily and never stopped to bother with worrying about whether or not its an addiction and just choose to enjoy the pleasures and still love and desire each other in the morning...

What you are describing is not addiction. If both partners are satisfied, both partners are aware of the boundaries of the relationship, and both partners are able to stay within those boundaries, you aren't describing addiction---you are describing a healthy sexual relationship.

Addiction doesn't mean "likes to have sex a whole lot," or "has sex a whole lot." If it were the former, I think that would include most of the population.

Rather, addiction in any form is marked by lack of control of a behavior combined with personal consequences, and a prioritizing of continuing the behavior without regard to those consequences, or at least in preference to them.
What are the potential consequences of a sex addiction? The guy I knew had a gf and he said they were sexually addicted to each other, why is this a problem, or did he just think it was a problem because of jesus guilt?
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#13
RE: Sexual addiction
I honestly never used to believe that sex addiction was an actual thing.
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#14
RE: Sexual addiction
(June 8, 2016 at 3:31 am)Dust_bunny Wrote: What are the potential consequences of a sex addiction? The guy I knew had a gf and he said they were sexually addicted to each other, why is this a problem, or did he just think it was a problem because of jesus guilt?

Without knowing anything about the guy, I really couldn't even begin to answer that question with any kind of accuracy.

I forced to guess, I'd say I think he was just speaking colloquially. I doubt either of them were formally diagnosed with any form of sexual addiction. IOW, he was just saying "my girlfriend and I just can't get enough of each other."
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#15
RE: Sexual addiction
(June 7, 2016 at 11:15 pm)Dust_bunny Wrote: What kind of animal do you have?


Belgian Tervuren Sheepdogs.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental. 
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#16
RE: Sexual addiction
(June 8, 2016 at 3:46 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(June 8, 2016 at 3:31 am)Dust_bunny Wrote: What are the potential consequences of a sex addiction? The guy I knew had a gf and he said they were sexually addicted to each other, why is this a problem, or did he just think it was a problem because of jesus guilt?

Without knowing anything about the guy, I really couldn't even begin to answer that question with any kind of accuracy.

I forced to guess, I'd say I think he was just speaking colloquially. I doubt either of them were formally diagnosed with any form of sexual addiction. IOW, he was just saying "my girlfriend and I just can't get enough of each other."

actually it was that they couldn't end the relationship because of sex
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#17
RE: Sexual addiction
Been there. Doesn't mean I was a sex addict.

Great sex can exist between two people who aren't relationship material. I have ample evidence of this. Shock
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great

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#18
RE: Sexual addiction
(June 8, 2016 at 12:55 am)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(June 7, 2016 at 12:16 pm)Dust_bunny Wrote: Why does sexual addiction usually end in the death of feelings, or some painful drama or heartbreak? Why cant humans fuction correctly when they are madly desiring someone?

Because when sex is an addiction, you are not madly desiring someone. You are madly desiring sex. Other people get swallowed up and spit out used because the primary focus tends to be in gaining that 'high' rather than having a mutually beneficial experience. This destroys relationships, and eventually your social pool from which to draw partners dries up. Then trouble follows.

(June 7, 2016 at 12:16 pm)Dust_bunny Wrote: What if two people who just madly desired one another, just kept having great sex happily and never stopped to bother with worrying about whether or not its an addiction and just choose to enjoy the pleasures and still love and desire each other in the morning...

What you are describing is not addiction. If both partners are satisfied, both partners are aware of the boundaries of the relationship, and both partners are able to stay within those boundaries, you aren't describing addiction---you are describing a healthy sexual relationship.

Addiction doesn't mean "likes to have sex a whole lot," or "has sex a whole lot." If it were the former, I think that would include most of the population.

Rather, addiction in any form is marked by lack of control of a behavior combined with personal consequences, and a prioritizing of continuing the behavior without regard to those consequences, or at least in preference to them.

The difference between sex and making love is that the former is about pleasing oneself, while the latter is about subsuming oneself into a larger whole.

An addict, to any stimulus, be it chemical, social, or sexual, will always put the service of his or her addiction above anything else -- not just the feelings of others, but even above their own feelings. That's because an addict serves a master; an addict chases the rainbow.

That being said, I'd prefer to be addicted to a little panocha, rather than booze or drugs.

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