Australian leader recites Quran and quote Mohammed

[Iroscato]

I have close friends in Australia, someone please say the nation hasn't delved into complete chaos yet? (Worried)

On the surface, things are okay here in Australia. But, like most Western countries, we're waking up to the fact that our countries are speeding towards a cliff, and there's no-one in the driver's seat.

Every Western country is developing their own brand of dystopia e.g. Europe is being invaded by Muslims, the US is being Mexicansied, Australia is being Asianised.

Australia may be the first Western country to fall, because America looks unlikely to stay in Asia and defend its allies here. And then China will gobble up the whole region, and march into Australia in a heartbeat because of our vast open spaces and vacant land.

Nuh-uh. Australia is an eastern country. I know because I looked on a map.

[Aractus]

Could it be that Islam is one of the recognized religions in Australia and it was a gesture of courtesy, fitting the location?

Precisely. Most Australian Muslims would feel quite safe and secure in this country, and that's what we want. We don't want an "us and them" society. It's true that the Quran and the Bible promote violence and discrimination against certain minority groups such as homosexuals, but it's also true that most people draw on the positives of religion rather than the negatives. Anyway, it's what we expect from our leaders, especially our prime minister, dumb nationalist bitch Jacqui Lambie refused an invitation to attend a mosque when invited, it's was absolutely fucking shameful. It was only an open-day, it wasn't as if she was asked to attend a religious service. She claimed she was "not raised that way". Not raised to be inclusive of others? Where the fuck were you raised then you stupid bitch, in Europe?, because here in Australia we value cultural inclusiveness. It should be a value of all Australians, it is certainly an overarching value.

Anyway, I commented two times here a while back that we are the most multicultural nation in the world, and then the PM said it at least three times! So either Turnbull is secretly copying me, or he said it because it's an Australian value and we know it's true. Which makes more sense to you? His actions are fully following through with his words, and I take my hat off to him. I'm also very pleased to see that he appears to be much more informed about Indigenous needs than Bill Shorten.


Finally I do want to say that the previous PM, Tony Abbott, is also very aware of the needs of Indigenous people and of the cultural-inclusive needs of Australians. And Like Lambie, he is a fairly hard conservative and a Catholic. He would have done the same thing as Turnbull here, he would not have said "I'm not going there it's against my religion" he too knew the importance of an inclusive Australia. And I must say, love or hate him, he was also very respectful to homosexuals in his opposition to same sex marriage. As was Julia Gillard before him, and she's an atheist. She maintained that marriage to her meant between a man and a woman and that homosexuals should carve out their own path rather than try to redefine something that means something specific to so many people. And in fact in the 1970's-1990's that's pretty much what gay rights wanted, it's only more recently that they've wanted to have marriage cover their relationships as well. I actually agree with that point of view, however I also think that the need for same sex marriage is greater than that POV because: 1. it's legal in other nation-states, and people who enter Australia should have their marriages recognised; 2. It'd be near-impossible to legislate equal rights under a different definition such as 'civil partnership'. It could theoretically be done, but it's a lot of work and it'd be a patch-job at best. Marriage is specifically mentioned in so many different acts and regulations that you would literally need to go through every one of them - at the national level and the state/territory level to give civil partnerships equal protection under the law, and any such effort may end up being incomplete. So while Gillard is right, the practicality of it precludes that option now IMHO. Anyway, with all that said, I completely disagree with Shorten who simply stated that everyone who was against same sex marriage was a bigot! His entire party when they were in Government said they were against it, including him!