Curious to know

[robvalue]

Interesting that I got away with this unchallenged.

Assertions, meet assertions.

You just ended the whole argument Rob.  Thanks for clearing up things for me.  Now I have to become an atheist.

There was an argument? I'll be damned.

(Pun intended)

[T.J.]

You can also sleep in on Sundays.

[Lek]

You just ended the whole argument Rob.  Thanks for clearing up things for me.  Now I have to become an atheist.

Happy to have you.  PM an administrator to learn the Secret Handshake.  Your decoder ring and complimentary copy of 'Babies, Baal and Barbecues'  be posted to you in 4-6 weeks.

Boru

It feels good to finally belong and I also like the sleeping in on Sundays part.  Too bad I'm not a football fan cause I can now catch the Sunday morning football games.  Now I know why you guys are really atheists.

[dyresand]

Happy to have you.  PM an administrator to learn the Secret Handshake.  Your decoder ring and complimentary copy of 'Babies, Baal and Barbecues'  be posted to you in 4-6 weeks.

Boru

It feels good to finally belong and I also like the sleeping in on Sundays part.  Too bad I'm not a football fan cause I can now catch the Sunday morning football games.  Now I know why you guys are really atheists.

Welcome to the club Lek
Also there is other things besides sleeping in on Sunday you know the appreciation of nature and all it's wonders.
To do good for the sake of doing good rather than doing good for the added benefit of a external reward. 
I love donating to charity and to food drives i even do toys for tots as well i love giving to those who are less fortunate. 
I haven't done community service in awhile i would love to get back to doing that.

Also we atheists aren't a group but just a collective of people only gather a few times a year for groups and such or atheist clubs.
So yeah

[Lek]

It feels good to finally belong and I also like the sleeping in on Sundays part.  Too bad I'm not a football fan cause I can now catch the Sunday morning football games.  Now I know why you guys are really atheists.

Welcome to the club Lek
Also there is other things besides sleeping in on Sunday you know the appreciation of nature and all it's wonders.
To do good for the sake of doing good rather than doing good for the added benefit of a external reward. 
I love donating to charity and to food drives i even do toys for tots as well i love giving to those who are less fortunate. 
I haven't done community service in awhile i would love to get back to doing that.

Also we atheists aren't a group but just a collective of people only gather a few times a year for groups and such or atheist clubs.
So yeah

I'm glad that you do these things Dyresand, but they all apply to christians as well.

[Redbeard The Pink]

Imbecile.  

Shit-for-brains

The name N on the NDEs was given because the bloke that really die in the first place came back to life.

No, you insufferable moron. The "N" is there because it stands for "near," and "near death" means close to death, but not actually dead. That could mean close to death because I'm on life support, or it could mean close to death because I narrowly missed getting hit by a train.


What you're describing is actually a death and resurrection, which is even more absurd than what you've been claiming so far, and you actually have less support for it.

It really die in the first place and that was certified by real doctors so real death was there. The heart stopped, the blood and oxygen stop flowing in the body included the brain so no Pinky you are wrong once again.

You keep doing that thing where you insist on the authenticity of a person's death on the authority of doctors. That is a fallacious appeal to authority. I would generally expect doctors to be pretty good at telling whether somebody is dead, but that doesn't mean that they and their machinery can't be wrong. Just because a doctor declares somebody dead, doesn't mean they are. Doctors make mistakes just like everyone.


Furthermore, even if we granted that there are circumstances where people can fully and really die and then be raised to life again (which I absolutely don't, BTW), that is not a near death experience. That is a resurrection, which is a totally different thing that has never happened.

Nobody so far has come forward with evidence that during a real death the brain is able to produce hallucinations so it is obvious that the consciousness take over have those experiences and then come back in the dead body to revived a dead body.
You are a clown not a doctor so you can't say whether the bloke really die or not.
Fail again son.  

Nobody has brought forth evidence that these people you describe are really dead, Rik. You are still appealing to authority. Doctors can be wrong. Their equipment can be wrong. There could be levels of life and/or brain activity that we can't currently detect or understand.


Also, these visions are sometimes had by people whose hearts and brains don't stop, and I know this for a fact because such a person spoke at my church. The boy from "Heaven is for Real" is another example I've already mentioned.


I get that you think I'm insulted by being called a clown, but you're the stupid fuck who can't tell clowns apart from wizards, Rik.

[Little Rik]

Imbecile.  

Shit-for-brains

The name N on the NDEs was given because the bloke that really die in the first place came back to life.

No, you insufferable moron. The "N" is there because it stands for "near," and "near death" means close to death, but not actually dead. That could mean close to death because I'm on life support, or it could mean close to death because I narrowly missed getting hit by a train.


What you're describing is actually a death and resurrection, which is even more absurd than what you've been claiming so far, and you actually have less support for it.

It really die in the first place and that was certified by real doctors so real death was there. The heart stopped, the blood and oxygen stop flowing in the body included the brain so no Pinky you are wrong once again.

You keep doing that thing where you insist on the authenticity of a person's death on the authority of doctors. That is a fallacious appeal to authority. I would generally expect doctors to be pretty good at telling whether somebody is dead, but that doesn't mean that they and their machinery can't be wrong. Just because a doctor declares somebody dead, doesn't mean they are. Doctors make mistakes just like everyone.


Furthermore, even if we granted that there are circumstances where people can fully and really die and then be raised to life again (which I absolutely don't, BTW), that is not a near death experience. That is a resurrection, which is a totally different thing that has never happened.

Nobody so far has come forward with evidence that during a real death the brain is able to produce hallucinations so it is obvious that the consciousness take over have those experiences and then come back in the dead body to revived a dead body.
You are a clown not a doctor so you can't say whether the bloke really die or not.
Fail again son.  

Nobody has brought forth evidence that these people you describe are really dead, Rik. You are still appealing to authority. Doctors can be wrong. Their equipment can be wrong. There could be levels of life and/or brain activity that we can't currently detect or understand.


Also, these visions are sometimes had by people whose hearts and brains don't stop, and I know this for a fact because such a person spoke at my church. The boy from "Heaven is for Real" is another example I've already mentioned.


I get that you think I'm insulted by being called a clown, but you're the stupid fuck who can't tell clowns apart from wizards, Rik.

Gee, what a bunch of idiots these doctors.  

They studied 6 long years at the Uni and don't even know whether the bloke is alive or dead.
But no worry son.  

From now on I will make sure that only clowns wizards can assess whether the bloke is alive or dead.  

Deal?  

[Little Rik]

Why do you come to this forum, Rik?

I already did explain this in previous posts Roberto but considering that your memory fail you once again
I will tell you again.

I love the challenges.
If I would post in a yoga forum it would be boring considering that everybody would agree with me.
Here is different.
Almost nobody agree with me and that put an extra challenge to me.
With the challenges the human mind is forced to work harder so to speak and all this help to keep the mind
exercised and sharper.
To be honest is not that I need to sharpen my mind a great deal because yoga already serve that purpose
but extra challenges are a bonus.
Capish? (right?)  


One suggestion Roberto.
Be happy that LR is here.
Without challenges your mind would stale.
You already got the big problem of being an atheist.
If you add also the problem of refusing the challenges to your dogmas then it would be a disaster.      

[Expired]

Can't argue with that can you Roberto.

[Little Rik]

I know exactly how the universe started and it has nothing to do with God. So there.

Done and dusted. No need to feel bad about it.

Roberto.  

I have been waiting all my life for someone to pop up with the real knowledge about the beginning of the universe.  
Please brother tell me all.  
Explain to me this important topic.
Was the space created first or the air came first.
And what about the light, water and matter.
Who came first and who last?
Roberto, I will cover you in pure 24 carat gold.
No problem about that but please give me tips and enlighten my life so the darkness will disappear
from my mind.