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Petition: second referendum for leaving the EU
June 25, 2016 at 6:18 am
(This post was last modified: June 25, 2016 at 6:55 am by robvalue.)
If you feel that this referendum was run poorly or unjustly, please consider adding your name to the petition here. (UK residents only, I imagine.)
Personally, I feel a 52% victory is woefully insufficient for a decision of this magnitude which affects not just all of Britain, but the rest of the world too. I'd like to see another one with a 60% threshold, as suggested by the petition.
It's already reached over a million votes, so it must be debated (it only needed 10,000 for that). But please consider signing anyway, to show the government how unhappy we are with this debacle.
I'm aware we have people who disagree. That's fine. No need to rant here, although I can't stop you if you really want to.
Thank you!
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RE: Petition: second referendum for leaving the EU
June 25, 2016 at 6:31 am
From a purely personal perspective (nice alliteration, huh?) the worst part of Brexit is the almost certain return of a physical, armed border between NI and the Republic, something which hasn't been since the GFA.
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RE: Petition: second referendum for leaving the EU
June 25, 2016 at 6:54 am
That is utterly awful, yes. I don't know what will happen between England and Scotland, should they ditch us.
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RE: Petition: second referendum for leaving the EU
June 25, 2016 at 6:56 am
Holy shit!
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RE: Petition: second referendum for leaving the EU
June 25, 2016 at 6:57 am
I signed the petition. Although I don't think much will come of it. Thanks for sharing anyway.
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RE: Petition: second referendum for leaving the EU
June 25, 2016 at 7:18 am
Great, thank you
They have to be talking about ways to get out of it. This will give them some leverage.
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RE: Petition: second referendum for leaving the EU
June 25, 2016 at 7:18 am
I doubt anything will come of this petition, even if half the country were to sign it. Farage and Johnson have been working for a long while towards leaving the EU, they got exactly what they wanted, even though they probably can't believe their luck, and will not let this victory out of their cold, dead hands.
At this point I can't think of anything that can stop UK from ultimately leaving, although I imagine the "Brexiters" will want to prolong this process, because they haven't really planned for success.
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RE: Petition: second referendum for leaving the EU
June 25, 2016 at 7:23 am
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(June 25, 2016 at 7:18 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: I doubt anything will come of this petition, even if half the country were to sign it. Farage and Johnson have been working for a long while towards leaving the EU, they got exactly what they wanted, even though they probably can't believe their luck, and will not let this victory out of their cold, dead hands.
You know, I wonder what they get out of it. It can be safely said, they're not having the wellbeing of the people in mind, but an agenda of their own.
In the case of Johnson, there's at least some kind of explanation, since he probably achieved his victory by kicking Dave out of office, but what's Farage's deal?
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RE: Petition: second referendum for leaving the EU
June 25, 2016 at 7:28 am
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This train is off the rails, right into the sea of discontent.
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RE: Petition: second referendum for leaving the EU
June 25, 2016 at 7:51 am
(June 25, 2016 at 7:23 am)abaris Wrote: You know, I wonder what they get out of it. It can be safely said, they're not having the wellbeing of the people in mind, but an agenda of their own.
In the case of Johnson, there's at least some kind of explanation, since he probably achieved his victory by kicking Dave out of office, but what's Farage's deal?
I'm not sure, but I suspect, that he simply wanted to score political points with UKIP constituents. Whatever economical and political consequences leaving EU may have - the ideas of controlled immigration and freedom from outside regulations will always resonate with certain portion of the voting public. If nothing else - Farage will always be the guy, who made the big bad EU go away. Sure - at least half the population will always hate him for it, but then - they always have.
Although I also suspect, that Farage didn't really count on winning the referendum. The campaign was a good way of presenting himself as an important political player and had the vote to leave failed - he'd still be able to point to his efforts, in order to blame pro-EU politicians for whatever issues might come up in the near future.
In other words, I think he was just doing his usual xenophobic song-and-dance, pandering to his base - and he got more than he hoped for.
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