The "Cultural Context" Excuse

[robvalue]

I'll see your disagreement and raise you...I disagree with your disagreement and insist you must agree.  In fact, nothing makes sense unless you agree, therefore atheism is false, and you're a hamster.

Abiogenesis.

[LadyForCamus]

This conversation could have gone very differently for you, Huggy. You could have just dropped it; admitted you went to far with a silly theory and just walked away. It would have been remembered as one of the few times in recent history around here that a theist did the mature, adult thing and admitted he was wrong. Instead, you're going to be remembered as the guy who ran around tantruming for 10 pages, smearing boogers up and down the wall over abiogenesis when he couldn't provide an explanation for his silly claim. Very...unbecoming.

[robvalue]

So we've gone from slavery apology to snake fucking, to misrepresenting science. Anyone want to throw in a Hitler to finish it off?

[The Grand Nudger]

You know, Hitler was just trying to get rid of all the hybrids.  Gott mit uns!

-Bingo-

[Huggy Bear]

-I- didn't back you into any corners Huggy, it's always been you doing that to yourself.  The only way you've jumped out now is to say in effect 

"lol, just kidding, I didn't mean any of that- got you fuckers real good".

Well, okay, I hope you're proud of your work....you've managed to convince everyone involved that the only thing that exceeds your faith in it's totality is your willing dishonesty.....and you still haven't convinced anyone that your interpretation is correct, that eve fucked a snake.    

: shrugs :

But you're wrong, I've been saying the same thing for years.

I can prove it.


From 4th September 2014

I showed where the Bible clearly state that "Cain was of that wicked one", he was not Adams son.

It WAS sex that caused it, which is why Jesus had to be born of a virgin, to restore everything back to how it was in the beginning, everything must run in continuity. We are in a fallen state because we are hybridized, in nature hybridization brings death (sterility). Adam had the power to form people out of the dust of the earth just like he was, (sex was not in the original plan) but lost that power when he fell.

The Bible states that Jesus Christ (aka second Adam) upon his return, will call up those that are "dead in Christ" back up from the dust like they were supposed to be in the beginning.

From 26th October 2015

God never intended for us to reproduce sexually, or else he would of made Adam and Eve at the same time. Adam was a minor god if you will, he had the power and authority to form people from the dust just like God had done. The mixing of the serpent seed with humans is what brought death. This is why God hates perversion so much. Remember the natural types the spiritual, A hybridized seed is dead (sterile) it cannot reproduce. What do you think the tree of good and evil is? It's a hybrid which brings death. That's why Jesus (also referred to as the second Adam) had to be virgin born, and when he returns, he'll call his people up from the dust (in the ressurection) like it should of been done in the first place.

Jesus Christ, the woman's seed hung on a cross to restore us back to eternal life, therefore he is the tree of life.

1 Peter 2:24
Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.

Judas who was the son of perdition (Which is hell, in other words he was of the serpents seed) who was an hypocrite (good and evil) also hung on a tree.

Now you see the tree of life and the tree of good and evil being made manifest, and the enmity between the seed of the serpent and the seed of the woman.

From 2nd May 2016

No it doesn't.

When man was created, he was a theophany. In other words, he was godlike. A god (little g) has no need for sex, Adam was to "procreate" by calling up people from the dust just like he was originally created. Eve's adultery caused the human race to be hybrid and perverted what God had originally intended, bringing forth death.

In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. - Genesis 3:19

Once man has returned to the dust, it is now up to Jesus Christ (aka the second Adam) to call us back up from the dust in the resurrection like it should have been done in the beginning.

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: - 1 Thessalonians 4:16

As you can clearly see, I've been saying the same thing the whole time.  

[Huggy Bear]

This conversation could have gone very differently for you, Huggy.  You could have just dropped it; admitted you went to far with a silly theory and just walked away.  It would have been remembered as one of the few times in recent history around here that a theist did the mature, adult thing and admitted he was wrong.  Instead, you're going to be remembered as the guy who ran around tantruming for 10 pages, smearing boogers up and down the wall over abiogenesis when he couldn't provide an explanation for his silly claim.  Very...unbecoming.  

Actually I think the joke is on the atheist arguing with the theist over which is the correct biblical interpretation, You guys can believe there was a talking snake if you want to.



makes no difference to me.

And by the way I did answers his question, you have to take those rose colored glasses of to see it.

[Cyberman]

No, it's a discussion forum.  If you;d like to take it to the dbate forum..we'd have to make a request.

Discussion and debate are synonymous  

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/discussion

discussion
noun
1. an act or instance of discussing; consideration or examination by argument, comment, etc., especially to explore solutions; informal debate.

Nice try though...

Correct; however, in regards to this forum - which is the context of Rhythm's quote - the formal debate forum is distinct and separate from the discussion forum proper. I won't say I suspect you knew this for delaying purposes; I merely propose the possibility.

[The Grand Nudger]

Hey, wb Stimbo.

[Huggy Bear]

The fact that you have to clarify that there is a forum for FORMAL debates, kinda implies all others are informal, no?

[The Grand Nudger]

Can't grasp the concept of a person agreeing with you can you...must not happen often.  I'm still kind of amused that you thought we were having a debate of any kind. I asked you questions relevant to your claims, you refused to answer them, then claimed that there was no way -to- answer them..then decided to pull the whole charade out from under yourself.  Meh.