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RE: Old Testament Prophecy Proof of Jesus
August 8, 2016 at 9:46 pm
(August 8, 2016 at 9:20 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: (August 8, 2016 at 2:20 pm)Drich Wrote: You do understand that the book of Judges is not a prophetic book and therefore contains no prophecy?
Dude if your going to Poe around at least put a little effort into it. You not even grasping at low hanging fruit here.. it's more like you've stepped in poo and are content tracking it around your house.
If it's not prophetic then why does Jesus say, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock?" Revelation is clear in that he wants to come inside you, i.e. spiritually rape you. I'm sorry if you don't get this, it's not your fault it's just that you need to discern these things spiritually. Yes, only the elite and super-duper special people are capable of seeing god's true message in the scripture. Drich here just isn't reading it with his magical, secret, spy-Jesus message decoder goggles.
It's okay, Drippy. We'll pray for you.
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RE: Old Testament Prophecy Proof of Jesus
August 9, 2016 at 8:38 am
(August 8, 2016 at 9:20 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: (August 8, 2016 at 2:20 pm)Drich Wrote: You do understand that the book of Judges is not a prophetic book and therefore contains no prophecy?
Dude if your going to Poe around at least put a little effort into it. You not even grasping at low hanging fruit here.. it's more like you've stepped in poo and are content tracking it around your house.
If it's not prophetic then why does Jesus say, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock?" Revelation is clear in that he wants to come inside you, i.e. spiritually rape you. I'm sorry if you don't get this, it's not your fault it's just that you need to discern these things spiritually.
I guess you are trying to pair Jesus "knocking" with verse 26???
26 Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man's house where her lord was, till it was light.
27 And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and, behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold.
Again, the Jews (as well as proper apologists) subdivide the books of the OT into three main subjects.
The Hebrew Bible is organized into three main sections: the Torah, or “Teaching,” also called the Pentateuch or the “Five Books of Moses”; the Neviʾim, or Prophets; and the Ketuvim, or Writings. It is often referred to as the Tanakh, a word combining the first letter from the names of each of the three main divisions.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hebrew- Bible
Judges is considered to be a book of 'writings' or more specifically a historical accounting of the time between moses and Christ.
So when 26 and 27 says the concubine fell/died at the door of her Master, it literally means a woman died on the door step of her owner after being raped to death by all those other men.
There was a literal rape that lasted all night, a literal concubine, a literal door and a literal death with a literal division of her body sent to 12 different places.
Again no prophecy found in a book of writings. Just the facts sir just the facts...
Now was Jesus trying to borrow from this story to illustrate a larger point? perhaps, the arguement could indeed be made, but again that does not make the story prophetic as that word is defined by the Jews of the time of judges nor in Christ's time.
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RE: Old Testament Prophecy Proof of Jesus
August 9, 2016 at 8:48 am
(August 8, 2016 at 9:46 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: (August 8, 2016 at 9:20 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: If it's not prophetic then why does Jesus say, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock?" Revelation is clear in that he wants to come inside you, i.e. spiritually rape you. I'm sorry if you don't get this, it's not your fault it's just that you need to discern these things spiritually. Yes, only the elite and super-duper special people are capable of seeing god's true message in the scripture. Drich here just isn't reading it with his magical, secret, spy-Jesus message decoder goggles.
It's okay, Drippy. We'll pray for you.
-Or maybe just maybe Drich is reading with 20+ years of study and experience of framing out the context of scripture from a historical and cultural context. Meaning Maybe 'he' understands and is trying to communicate that just because you can read english does not give you mastery over this series of document and what one can glean from a once over scan or the more popular youtube anti apologists' take, is most likely wrong because none of the things I bring up have been used to filter out the foolishness you all use to pad your arguments with.
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RE: Old Testament Prophecy Proof of Jesus
August 9, 2016 at 10:45 am
Quote:Judges is considered to be a book of 'writings' or more specifically a historical accounting of the time between moses and Christ.
Oh the irony. That's like saying that you have a book which is the historical accounting of the time between Batman and Superman.
You need to recognize bullshit better, dripshit. Right now you just look like a moron.
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RE: Old Testament Prophecy Proof of Jesus
August 9, 2016 at 11:02 am
(August 9, 2016 at 10:45 am)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Judges is considered to be a book of 'writings' or more specifically a historical accounting of the time between moses and Christ.
Oh the irony. That's like saying that you have a book which is the historical accounting of the time between Batman and Superman.
You need to recognize bullshit better, dripshit. Right now you just look like a moron.
I assume 'historical' in this case doesn't really mean historical.
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RE: Old Testament Prophecy Proof of Jesus
August 9, 2016 at 11:05 am
Right. Dripshit thinks his bullshit is real.
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RE: Old Testament Prophecy Proof of Jesus
August 9, 2016 at 11:09 am
(August 9, 2016 at 8:48 am)Drich Wrote: (August 8, 2016 at 9:46 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Yes, only the elite and super-duper special people are capable of seeing god's true message in the scripture. Drich here just isn't reading it with his magical, secret, spy-Jesus message decoder goggles.
It's okay, Drippy. We'll pray for you.
-Or maybe just maybe Drich is reading with 20+ years of study and experience of framing out the context of scripture from a historical and cultural context. Meaning Maybe 'he' understands and is trying to communicate that just because you can read english does not give you mastery over this series of document and what one can glean from a once over scan or the more popular youtube anti apologists' take, is most likely wrong because none of the things I bring up have been used to filter out the foolishness you all use to pad your arguments with.
Nothing special about you as an apologist, though. You're just one of many.
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RE: Old Testament Prophecy Proof of Jesus
August 9, 2016 at 11:41 am
(August 9, 2016 at 8:38 am)Drich Wrote: (August 8, 2016 at 9:20 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: If it's not prophetic then why does Jesus say, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock?" Revelation is clear in that he wants to come inside you, i.e. spiritually rape you. I'm sorry if you don't get this, it's not your fault it's just that you need to discern these things spiritually.
I guess you are trying to pair Jesus "knocking" with verse 26???
26 Then came the woman in the dawning of the day, and fell down at the door of the man's house where her lord was, till it was light.
27 And her lord rose up in the morning, and opened the doors of the house, and went out to go his way: and, behold, the woman his concubine was fallen down at the door of the house, and her hands were upon the threshold.
Again, the Jews (as well as proper apologists) subdivide the books of the OT into three main subjects.
The Hebrew Bible is organized into three main sections: the Torah, or “Teaching,” also called the Pentateuch or the “Five Books of Moses”; the Neviʾim, or Prophets; and the Ketuvim, or Writings. It is often referred to as the Tanakh, a word combining the first letter from the names of each of the three main divisions.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hebrew-Bible
Judges is considered to be a book of 'writings' or more specifically a historical accounting of the time between moses and Christ.
So when 26 and 27 says the concubine fell/died at the door of her Master, it literally means a woman died on the door step of her owner after being raped to death by all those other men.
There was a literal rape that lasted all night, a literal concubine, a literal door and a literal death with a literal division of her body sent to 12 different places.
Again no prophecy found in a book of writings. Just the facts sir just the facts...
Now was Jesus trying to borrow from this story to illustrate a larger point? perhaps, the arguement could indeed be made, but again that does not make the story prophetic as that word is defined by the Jews of the time of judges nor in Christ's time.
The knocking refers to verse 22:
Now as they were making their hearts merry, behold, the men of the city, certain sons of Belial, beset the house round about, and beat at the door, and spake to the master of the house, the old man, saying, Bring forth the man that came into thine house, that we may know him.
I don't know how you get the knocking out of verses 26-27.
Also there are prophecies in all books of the Bible, including the Torah. God promised Abraham that his semen would fill the sky, if that's not poetic prophecy then I don't know what is.
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Old Testament Prophecy Proof of Jesus
August 9, 2016 at 7:29 pm
(August 9, 2016 at 8:48 am)Drich Wrote: (August 8, 2016 at 9:46 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: Yes, only the elite and super-duper special people are capable of seeing god's true message in the scripture. Drich here just isn't reading it with his magical, secret, spy-Jesus message decoder goggles.
It's okay, Drippy. We'll pray for you.
-Or maybe just maybe Drich is reading with 20+ years of study and experience of framing out the context of scripture from a historical and cultural context. Meaning Maybe 'he' understands and is trying to communicate that just because you can read english does not give you mastery over this series of document and what one can glean from a once over scan or the more popular youtube anti apologists' take, is most likely wrong because none of the things I bring up have been used to filter out the foolishness you all use to pad your arguments with.
Oh, please. You resort to logical fallacies and dishonest debate tactics to make your points, and the fact that you ACTUALLY believe no one has ever proven you wrong on a point around here only speaks further to your delusions of grandeur. And, there is no such thing as "cultural context" when God himself commanded the culture into being. But, you know where to find that thread. [emoji6]
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RE: Old Testament Prophecy Proof of Jesus
August 9, 2016 at 8:29 pm
Quote:-Or maybe just maybe Drich is reading with 20+ years of study and experience of framing out the context of scripture from a historical and cultural context.
Is that how long you've been bullshitting yourself? Sad waste of a life.
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