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RE: Why did we stop inventing gods?
August 15, 2016 at 3:38 am
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(August 15, 2016 at 3:10 am)Luckie Wrote: I think the resounding message humanity conveys in all it's gods is that we (humans) are powerless and alone without a "god".
The more empowered we become, and the more we can come to terms with the fact that we are alone -- the less god is needed, and the more independent humanity becomes.
Being taught that there is something Inherently wrong with you, ie: Indoctrinated worthlessness, helplessness, predestination, and codependency is a form of mental abuse, and until people learn to recognize it for what it is, we are stuck with "gods".
Yes...we are stuck with being gods learning how to be Gods.
Psalms 82:6
I said, "You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High.
John 10:34
Jesus replied, "Is it not written in your Law: 'I have said you are gods' ?
(August 15, 2016 at 3:35 am)Jesster Wrote: (August 15, 2016 at 3:34 am)Arkilogue Wrote: No, I am saying there are general trends of group activity in a given populous and there are outliers. Bell curves. Do you want statistical evidence on the nature of statistical bell curves? We're getting seriously meta lady...
No, I want the actual source data. Don't change the subject.
And yeah. I am convinced of your Poe status at this point. I'm calling it, everyone. You want a data source that convinces you modern pop culture society is obsessed with/worshiping celebrity/money/power?
And you had better explain "Poe status" or I will invoke Poe's law.
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RE: Why did we stop inventing gods?
August 15, 2016 at 3:43 am
Hey look. You got me to successfully reply again. That makes trolls happy, right?
I don't believe you. Get over it.
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RE: Why did we stop inventing gods?
August 15, 2016 at 3:55 am
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(August 15, 2016 at 3:43 am)Jesster Wrote: Hey look. You got me to successfully reply again. That makes trolls happy, right?
Do as you wish.
A troll accosts and harasses those who attempt to cross it's bridge. They do not bring out the treasure they have found and refined to offer up to anonymous scrutiny by internet strangers.
(August 15, 2016 at 3:43 am)Jesster Wrote: Hey look. You got me to successfully reply again. That makes trolls happy, right?
What have I done to offend you? Why have you put me on your ignore list?
Seems hypocritical to put me on your ignore list then send me a private email informing me of such, which I cannot respond to. Each to their own safe space I guess...*popcorn*
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RE: Why did we stop inventing gods?
August 15, 2016 at 11:02 am
(August 15, 2016 at 3:38 am)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 15, 2016 at 3:35 am)Jesster Wrote: No, I want the actual source data. Don't change the subject.
And yeah. I am convinced of your Poe status at this point. I'm calling it, everyone. You want a data source that convinces you modern pop culture society is obsessed with/worshiping celebrity/money/power?
You are exaggerating and equivocating here. Pop culture 'obsessing' about these things is hardly worshiping. And I would say that pop culture concentrating on these things is an artifact of the fact that these are desirable, status enhancing things. Individuals desire these things, so popular culture obsesses about them. It's more fascination and want than it is worship.
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RE: Why did we stop inventing gods?
August 15, 2016 at 11:14 am
It's not exactly a modern phenomena, either......
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RE: Why did we stop inventing gods?
August 15, 2016 at 2:41 pm
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(August 15, 2016 at 11:02 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: (August 15, 2016 at 3:38 am)Arkilogue Wrote: You want a data source that convinces you modern pop culture society is obsessed with/worshiping celebrity/money/power?
You are exaggerating and equivocating here. Pop culture 'obsessing' about these things is hardly worshiping. And I would say that pop culture concentrating on these things is an artifact of the fact that these are desirable, status enhancing things. Individuals desire these things, so popular culture obsesses about them. It's more fascination and want than it is worship.
I would say it's more than worship...with all of the physical and emotional obsession, without the mental dogma. I see the same actions attributed to a different form.
(August 15, 2016 at 11:14 am)Rhythm Wrote: It's not exactly a modern phenomena, either......
True, the ancient celebrity were warriors, kings or gladiators, not actors...they actually did things.
On the same page I read a story about Brad Pitt who wrote a letter to Costco asking them to make sure there chickens were free range and treated well. They're working on it.
When Bard Pitt tells you to be nice to chickens, you be nice to chickens. lol
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RE: Why did we stop inventing gods?
August 15, 2016 at 10:43 pm
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If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Why did we stop inventing gods?
August 15, 2016 at 11:18 pm
We didn't.
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RE: Why did we stop inventing gods?
August 15, 2016 at 11:31 pm
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(August 15, 2016 at 2:41 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: True, the ancient celebrity were warriors, kings or gladiators, not actors...they actually did things.
On the same page I read a story about Brad Pitt who wrote a letter to Costco asking them to make sure there chickens were free range and treated well. They're working on it.
When Bard Pitt tells you to be nice to chickens, you be nice to chickens. lol
Yeah, like behead people and press their daughters into sex slavery. The good old days, when there were decent heroes, amiright? Hey, remember when our heroes used to send bears at children, flood out the world...and call grieving mothers a bitch for being part of the wrong tribe? That's what we -used- to "worship".
Personally, I'd call Brad an improvement, even if he is a chicken sympathizer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E88RUqyjts
....carry on.
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RE: Why did we stop inventing gods?
August 15, 2016 at 11:32 pm
There is always something new to be invented.
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