God is an atheist

[PETE_ROSE]

Could a being such as this that exists outside of our space-time, not merely be an observer to the events? To say that free wil does not exist within that system seems a bit of wishful thinking to claim denial of choice or a stretch at least. It is obvious why many would like to make this claim. We at least have the appearance of free will in this reality.

Merely knowing the events that will take place seems a far cry from total lack of free will and predestination in its entirety.

[rado84]

Supposedly he gives us the freedom to choose, but it isn't really freedom. It's like a guy pointing a gun to a woman's head, telling her to suck his dick or he'll shoot her. It's not a choice. It's an ultimatum.

It's not the same. If she doesn't suck, he'll shoot her. While in god's case it's just an empty threat. God says I should believe in him but after so many years I still don't and I'm still alive. So it's an empty threat not comparable with the woman's case.

[ErikB]

I've written a satirical book series about an unwitting atheist Norse god, and I think the idea of an atheist god is interesting. I came at it from a sports psychology angle, and Robert, the main character (once he figures out he's a god) only manages to do godly stuff when he completely believes in himself. A god who believes in himself also can't mindlessly believe in prophesies and foretold events. So free will can kill him but it can also save him (and the world), depending on what he believes him. For a creator god, believing is seeing, rather than the other way around. I guess you could say that free will is a part of a powerful, atheist god.  

[Alexander The Great]

If we forget the "God's God" paradox, then yeah. God does not have anything above him.
He's either self-worshiper or atheist.

[fdesilva]

I've been thinking lately - if god has given us free will, the freedom to choose for ourselves, then he must be an atheist. Religion (Christianity in particular) is known for highjacking people's freedom for centuries (you'll either believe in god or we'll kill you), so free will can't come from religion. So, if god gave us the freedom to choose what to believe, that makes him an atheist.
What do you think about that thought?

When we say we believe in something, it does imply that we don’t know for sure. Else we would say we know such and such. Yes free will does come into play when we make a choice on what to believe. If God exist or God does not exist. Which country will win the Olympics? etc. In time these beliefs turn into knowledge. If God exist He does not believe He exist, He knows He exist. So in this sense of the word believe, God cannot believe He does not exist because He knows He exist.

In regard to free will. This is my take on it.
Think of a GPS Navigation system. If we got a good one, we are happy to follow it because we can trust the directions given. Sure we are free to go a different route.
Now consider this. Suppose one-day a computer was invented that knew everything.  It knew you so well that you could ask it what should I do next and it will tell you. Would you not be wise to follow its advice? God has given free will to take His advice and become like Him or go our own way.

[robvalue]

I've written a satirical book series about an unwitting atheist Norse god, and I think the idea of an atheist god is interesting. I came at it from a sports psychology angle, and Robert, the main character (once he figures out he's a god) only manages to do godly stuff when he completely believes in himself. A god who believes in himself also can't mindlessly believe in prophesies and foretold events. So free will can kill him but it can also save him (and the world), depending on what he believes him. For a creator god, believing is seeing, rather than the other way around. I guess you could say that free will is a part of a powerful, atheist god.  

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Welcome to the forum!

[rado84]

I've written a satirical book series about an unwitting atheist Norse god, and I think the idea of an atheist god is interesting. I came at it from a sports psychology angle, and Robert, the main character (once he figures out he's a god) only manages to do godly stuff when he completely believes in himself. A god who believes in himself also can't mindlessly believe in prophesies and foretold events. So free will can kill him but it can also save him (and the world), depending on what he believes him. For a creator god, believing is seeing, rather than the other way around. I guess you could say that free will is a part of a powerful, atheist god.  

Feel free to use the idea for another book. It would be interesting to read that book.

[Anomalocaris]

God is an atheist

God is an atheist only in the sense that God does not exist, and therefore lack the prerequisite to believe in either itself or any higher being than itself.

[ErikB]

I've written a satirical book series about an unwitting atheist Norse god, and I think the idea of an atheist god is interesting. I came at it from a sports psychology angle, and Robert, the main character (once he figures out he's a god) only manages to do godly stuff when he completely believes in himself. A god who believes in himself also can't mindlessly believe in prophesies and foretold events. So free will can kill him but it can also save him (and the world), depending on what he believes him. For a creator god, believing is seeing, rather than the other way around. I guess you could say that free will is a part of a powerful, atheist god.  

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Welcome to the forum!

Thank you!

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I've written a satirical book series about an unwitting atheist Norse god, and I think the idea of an atheist god is interesting. I came at it from a sports psychology angle, and Robert, the main character (once he figures out he's a god) only manages to do godly stuff when he completely believes in himself. A god who believes in himself also can't mindlessly believe in prophesies and foretold events. So free will can kill him but it can also save him (and the world), depending on what he believes him. For a creator god, believing is seeing, rather than the other way around. I guess you could say that free will is a part of a powerful, atheist god.  

Feel free to use the idea for another book. It would be interesting to read that book.

Thanks! The book is called The Lost Sons of Asgard and is currently only available as a Kindle. I've added a link to it in my signature, if you'd like to check it out. 

[Organic Machine]

If there is a god and I meet him after death, I'll ask him where he came from. If he says he doesn't know and that he always "just was" then he isn't an answer, but rather, just another question. If he doesn't have and beliefs about where he came from, then yes, he is an atheist.