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RE: How can you prove that the gospel of Mark is not the "word of god"?
August 27, 2016 at 9:16 am
(August 27, 2016 at 9:15 am)Lincoln05 Wrote: Let me rephrase the question: If a person said, "The gospel of Mark is the only book in the new testament that was divinely inspired. No other books in the NT are words of god", then how would you prove him/her wrong?
Same answer. It's not my job to disprove it. It's not to be accepted until the person making the claim proves it.
This isn't that hard.
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RE: How can you prove that the gospel of Mark is not the "word of god"?
August 27, 2016 at 9:19 am
(August 27, 2016 at 9:15 am)Lincoln05 Wrote: Let me rephrase the question: If a person said, "The gospel of Mark is the only book in the new testament that was divinely inspired. No other books in the NT are words of god", then how would you prove him/her wrong?
Same answer. The claimee is held to provide the evidence. Once evidence is provided we can argue. What evidence do you provide?
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RE: How can you prove that the gospel of Mark is not the "word of god"?
August 27, 2016 at 9:26 am
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(August 27, 2016 at 9:19 am)chimp3 Wrote: (August 27, 2016 at 9:15 am)Lincoln05 Wrote: Let me rephrase the question: If a person said, "The gospel of Mark is the only book in the new testament that was divinely inspired. No other books in the NT are words of god", then how would you prove him/her wrong?
Same answer. The claimee is held to provide the evidence. Once evidence is provided we can argue. What evidence do you provide? Well, let's say that the claimee says "It is the only gospel without any errors. It is also seen by scholars as the most authentic gospel".
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RE: How can you prove that the gospel of Mark is not the "word of god"?
August 27, 2016 at 9:28 am
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(August 27, 2016 at 9:26 am)Lincoln05 Wrote: (August 27, 2016 at 9:19 am)chimp3 Wrote: Same answer. The claimee is held to provide the evidence. Once evidence is provided we can argue. What evidence do you provide? Well, the evidence would be that it is the only gospel without any errors. It is also seen by scholars as the most authentic gospel. So the claimee (if he/she is a christian) could say that this is the only gospel that was divinely inspired.
That's not strong enough evidence. A book can have no errors (that we know of) and still be fictional.
Again, I'm not trying to disprove it. I'm just not accepting that the gospel of Mark is entirely factual yet.
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RE: How can you prove that the gospel of Mark is not the "word of god"?
August 27, 2016 at 9:33 am
The book of Mark was still made by men, and we still have no originals. So you're still going on hearsay of hearsay of someone who claims to be inspired by a deity whose roots go back to being the lesser god of a pantheon. It's not very impressive.
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RE: How can you prove that the gospel of Mark is not the "word of god"?
August 27, 2016 at 9:34 am
Right back at ya!
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RE: How can you prove that the gospel of Mark is not the "word of god"?
August 27, 2016 at 9:36 am
(August 27, 2016 at 9:28 am)Jesster Wrote: (August 27, 2016 at 9:26 am)Lincoln05 Wrote: Well, the evidence would be that it is the only gospel without any errors. It is also seen by scholars as the most authentic gospel. So the claimee (if he/she is a christian) could say that this is the only gospel that was divinely inspired.
That's not strong enough evidence. A book can have no errors (that we know of) and still be fictional.
Again, I'm not trying to disprove it. I'm just not accepting that the gospel of Mark is entirely factual yet.
Ok, suppose the claimee says something like "Without any doubt, I believe that Jesus was real and god-sent and the gospel of Mark is all I have". So how would you disprove this book to a Jesus believer?
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RE: How can you prove that the gospel of Mark is not the "word of god"?
August 27, 2016 at 9:38 am
(August 27, 2016 at 9:36 am)Lincoln05 Wrote: (August 27, 2016 at 9:28 am)Jesster Wrote: That's not strong enough evidence. A book can have no errors (that we know of) and still be fictional.
Again, I'm not trying to disprove it. I'm just not accepting that the gospel of Mark is entirely factual yet.
Ok, suppose the claimee says something like "Without any doubt, I believe that Jesus was real and god-sent and the gospel of Mark is all I have". So how would you disprove this book to a Jesus believer?
Why do you want me to disprove this so badly? I'm an atheist because I don't believe in a god. I don't claim to have knowledge that a god does not actually exist.
If someone wants to believe otherwise, it's not my job to disprove them. They can believe what they want, but I'm going to follow the evidence instead.
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How can you prove that the gospel of Mark is not the "word of god"?
August 27, 2016 at 9:40 am
(August 27, 2016 at 9:15 am)Lincoln05 Wrote: Let me rephrase the question: If a person said, "The gospel of Mark is the only book in the new testament that was divinely inspired. No other books in the NT are words of god", then how would you prove him/her wrong?
You wouldn't. That's not your responsibility. "The gospel of Mark was divinely inspired," is a positive claim, therefore the responsibility lies with the claimant to provide sufficient evidence for its truth.
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RE: How can you prove that the gospel of Mark is not the "word of god"?
August 27, 2016 at 9:41 am
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(August 27, 2016 at 9:15 am)Lincoln05 Wrote: Let me rephrase the question: If a person said, "The gospel of Mark is the only book in the new testament that was divinely inspired. No other books in the NT are words of god", then how would you prove him/her wrong?
And how exactly do they prove that claim? Do you not understand the simple concept that the one who claims has to prove their claims and it's not the other way around?
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