Daystar's ban - Discussion

[Edwardo Piet]

Yeah I agree. Its not just as he is anti-debate. As I said - he basically just disrupts the forums(s) and the discussion. To put it simply.
I didn't come here to debate theists either. I came here for a good discussion. Although I do find it fun debating with theists IF they're mature about it and don't f**k up the whole debate or disrupt the discussion(s) or even forum(s).
Evf

[Ace Otana]

I agree with the ban. I agreed with the month ban since he did break a number of rules, (almost every rule). When he produced another account and use it to mass spam, I then agreed that a permanent ban would be necessary.

If he had just waited for the ban to be lifted, he could come back and try again, but he ruined it for himself by breaking more rules, rules being slightly more serious.

I don't like seeing people being banned but it must be done. Who knows? If we allowed him back after what he had done, would he mass spam again? Would he post more insults and produce more accounts? Breaking more rules? It causes to much trouble and it makes the forum look bad.

[Edwardo Piet]

Yes. After the month ban (which as I have explained I think was a totally reasonable ban), he went even lower and behaved worse.
So definitely the full ban then.
If we'd let him back he could have spammed and caused trouble again easily. Now we know what he's capable of for sure, after all, - with all the imposter business - that was sick.
I agree Ace, it was the right decision on both counts.
Evf

[Dotard]

Awwwww... I didn't get any spam! That makes me feel left out.

And I really like Spam and Eggs.

Ban them all and let God sort 'em out. (sorry, couldn't resist.)

[Edwardo Piet]

Heh. I haven't had spam in years. I think its a bit spammy - but I'll eat a lot of things.
I probably like it. I can't remember and my tastes change lol. Its cheapo though I know. But a lot of stuff I eat is. Not all though.
Lol.

[LukeMC]

I'm pro ban.
Abusive, arogant, brought every debate to a standstill. A complete waste of our efforts. We can still debate Psalm if we really want to hear something crazy to debunk.

[Purple Rabbit]

The ban must stay for using multiple identities on this forum, not for the content of his discussion and certainly not for his refusal to accept your reasoning.

I urge you to rethink your policy on banning and to base it solely on complying to behavioural etiquette (personal attack beyond what's accepted informally here, and taking on multiple identities) and to avoid the suspicion that the content of arguments or disagreement about conclusions itself might be relevant for the right to participate in debate.

[Eilonnwy]

I think the policy for banning is fine. It's not like we're violating his freedom of speech. It's more of an "it's our party kinda deal" so he can be banned for whatever reasons.

That said, I think the reasons he was banned are perfectly acceptable.

[Purple Rabbit]

"it's our party kinda deal"

That's my argument.

[Tiberius]

The ban must stay for using multiple identities on this forum, not for the content of his discussion and certainly not for his refusal to accept your reasoning.

I urge you to rethink your policy on banning and to base it solely on complying to behavioural etiquette (personal attack beyond what's accepted informally here, and taking on multiple identities) and to avoid the suspicion that the content of arguments or disagreement about conclusions itself might be relevant for the right to participate in debate.

I thought I'd told you before that this isn't our policy at all; you misunderstood my explanation. A person can disagree with our points as much as they want, but if they start repeating arguments that have been refuted (in scientific debates) in an annoying fashion then we will warn and ban them.

This policy is only going to be used when a member keeps on insisting there is "no evidence" for evolution, or some other completely unfounded claim, despite being told multiple times that there is, given the evidence required, etc. Otherwise, any debate is simply going to go sour very quickly. There is no point debating people who do not want to debate. In other words, if you get on the nerves of forum members because you consistently ignore debate points and always thrust your own view without consideration for the counter-points, you will get warned and banned.