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The Tillman Story
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The Tillman Story
There's a new movie coming out about the Tillman cover up. For those who don't know, Pat Tillman was killed in friendly fire in overseas. The government decided to cover it up, but eventually the truth came out. Pat Tillman is notable not only for giving up a football career to go into the army, but for being an outspoken atheist. His brother at his funeral stated, and I'm paraphrasing, "Pat would have wanted me to say this, he was an atheist, and he's fucking dead. He's not with god."

Link to a preview here: http://link.brightcove.com/services/play...7904205001

Here is an article discussing the movie: http://www.alternet.org/world/147861/the...the_truth/
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RE: The Tillman Story
Maybe they shot him because he was an atheist. There are way too many jesus freaks in the army.
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RE: The Tillman Story
(August 19, 2010 at 12:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Maybe they shot him because he was an atheist. There are way too many jesus freaks in the army.

The fact that they felt the need to cover it up at all smells like a "fragging".

After all, other friendly fire incidents happen without a cover up. This is an unfortunate part of war. Why the cover up unless there's something worse under the surface?
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RE: The Tillman Story
(August 19, 2010 at 4:08 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(August 19, 2010 at 12:24 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Maybe they shot him because he was an atheist. There are way too many jesus freaks in the army.

The fact that they felt the need to cover it up at all smells like a "fragging".

After all, other friendly fire incidents happen without a cover up. This is an unfortunate part of war. Why the cover up unless there's something worse under the surface?

I don't believe this was a murder. The problem was that Tillman was a poster boy for the response to 9/11 - he gave up a lucrative contract and possibly his whole NFL career to enlist because he believed in the war in Afghanistan.

When he died they thought this would be a very public black eye since Tillman was pretty famous for having enlisted so they thought it would be a black eye in the whole PR dept.

I also don't think this was a purposeful friendly fire incident because they could have just said so instead of going to the trouble of giving him awards that aren't usually given for friendly fire incidents.

The whole Tillman story is pretty sad over all in how our government was and likely still is willing to dishonor someone's family and life just because of PR especially when that person gave his life in service to it.
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RE: The Tillman Story
It really does sound like some harrowing tale and I really feel for Tillman and the Tillman family. Every single one of the Tillman family have proven themselves to be heroes for fighting their battles and bringing out their story in spite of our own armed forces and the Bush White House.

Still though, I suppose I'd be more excited if this wasn't a drop in the perverbial bucket of lies, damned lies, and statistics from the Bush Administration. Despite that, if I can afford it, I'll certainly have to make an effort to see the movie.
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RE: The Tillman Story
A tragic tale.Young men volunteering to go off and kill foreigners seem to seldom if ever seriously consider being killed might refer to them personally.


This week the 21st Australian soldier was killed in Afghanistan. People are getting REALLY pissed off.


We have a hung parliament.That means 2 independents and one Green will hold the balance of power in the Lower House.The Greens are calling for a parliamentary debate and conscience vote on Australia's involvement in Afghanistan..If that happens our troops will probably be withdrawn.

The justifications given by our politicians, to put it bluntly, are lies at worst,half truths at best.
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RE: The Tillman Story
No. "Lies" is the word.
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