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RE: Christianity Can't Be True Because...
August 30, 2016 at 10:39 pm
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(August 30, 2016 at 10:15 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: What the ever-loving FUCK?!
Quote:Are you a certified arborist? Have you ever worked in an orchard?
Oh, so in THIS thread you feel justified in throwing around that authoritative "I'm a certified arborist, and you're not" hubris? Where was that earlier when I was making that exact comparison regarding others' professions? I thought it was just as easy as looking it up on YouTube? [emoji6]
Simplified even further: An infinite substance has 3 equal spatial relationships with it's own substance. All around itself, at the center of itself ever where, and throughout itself equal as a field in tension equilibrium. These quantize into a sphere around a real point with a tensor field between them.
It instantly establishes curvature, space, and field that permeates that space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curvaton
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_field
These 3 features in the universe are hidden from us. The sphere is the outer membrane where void space turns back into saturated space filled with the original substance now in patterning flow around the sphere. This is "God the Father". The field that interpenetrates, surrounds and connects everything in the universe is the "Holy Spirit", the central point and gravitational ruler of the universe is the "self begotton Son of God." It was born from a "virgin" ocean of matter where no creation (void space) existed before. Interestingly enough, the Latin word for ocean is mari.
And of course you know; the story of the half man half God, savior son, born from a virgin is a story far older than the Jesus account.
I was flabbergasted the person couldn't translate such an obvious metaphor given the biblical usage of trees as a symbol for people/tribes/religions over time. I've worked with them long enough to see exactly why it applies. Certification not required.
If you have no familiarity with either, you'll have to think about it a little to see how it applies. In the other thread I referenced a number of credible sources to back up my assertions. In this one I didn't
False equivalence of situations.
But I truly do appreciate your tenacity
(August 30, 2016 at 8:46 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Because the idea of gods is absurd. There are no such things. They are the product of imagination and nothing more. Hard core monotheists would agree.
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RE: Christianity Can't Be True Because...
August 30, 2016 at 10:59 pm
(August 30, 2016 at 10:39 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 30, 2016 at 10:15 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: What the ever-loving FUCK?!
Oh, so in THIS thread you feel justified in throwing around that authoritative "I'm a certified arborist, and you're not" hubris? Where was that earlier when I was making that exact comparison regarding others' professions? I thought it was just as easy as looking it up on YouTube? [emoji6]
Simplified even further: An infinite substance has 3 equal spatial relationships with it's own substance. All around itself, at the center of itself ever where, and throughout itself equal as a field in tension equilibrium. These quantize into a sphere around a real point with a tensor field between them.
It instantly establishes curvature, space, and field that permeates that space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curvaton
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_field
These 3 features in the universe are hidden from us. The sphere is the outer membrane where void space turns back into saturated space filled with the original substance now in patterning flow around the sphere. This is "God the Father". The field that interpenetrates, surrounds and connects everything in the universe is the "Holy Spirit", the central point and gravitational ruler of the universe is the "self begotton Son of God." It was born from a "virgin" ocean of matter where no creation (void space) existed before. Interestingly enough, the Latin word for ocean is mari.
And of course you know; the story of the half man half God, savior son, born from a virgin is a story far older than the Jesus account.
I was flabbergasted the person couldn't translate such an obvious metaphor given the biblical usage of trees as a symbol for people/tribes/religions over time. I've worked with them long enough to see exactly why it applies. Certification not required.
If you have no familiarity with either, you'll have to think about it a little to see how it applies. In the other thread I referenced a number of credible sources to back up my assertions. In this one I didn't
False equivalence of situations.
But I truly do appreciate your tenacity
You spout some of the most entertaining bullshit.
It's still bullshit though.
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RE: Christianity Can't Be True Because...
August 30, 2016 at 11:09 pm
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(August 30, 2016 at 10:59 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: You spout some of the most entertaining bullshit.
It's still bullshit though. Thanks!
What I just explained structurally predicts the anatomy and behavior of atoms.
The metaversal model it's part of, geometrically predicts the dark energy constant (on each of infinite universes) within .5% of modern refined estimates.
The geometric structure of the field predicts the natural mathematics of music aka vibration as well as subatomic particle organization.
It is completely deterministic, each universe is the same quanta of the same singularity. A discrete measurement of whole motion out of an infinite field. It blows out of the water both the random "lucky us" drunken bingo machine of the Many Worlds theory as well as "intelligent design."
It is deterministic, geometric and the evidence is within you and all around you. How many places and at what scales have you looked? What do you bring to the table?
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RE: Christianity Can't Be True Because...
August 31, 2016 at 8:42 am
Arkilogue Wrote:Quote:Thanks!
What I just explained structurally predicts the anatomy and behavior of atoms.
The metaversal model it's part of, geometrically predicts the dark energy constant (on each of infinite universes) within .5% of modern refined estimates.
The geometric structure of the field predicts the natural mathematics of music aka vibration as well as subatomic particle organization.
It is completely deterministic, each universe is the same quanta of the same singularity. A discrete measurement of whole motion out of an infinite field. It blows out of the water both the random "lucky us" drunken bingo machine of the Many Worlds theory as well as "intelligent design."
It is deterministic, geometric and the evidence is within you and all around you. How many places and at what scales have you looked? What do you bring to the table?
What does it have to do with Jesus being the son of God born of a virgin who now sits at God's right hand? That's what has to be true for Christianity to be true isn't it?
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Christianity Can't Be True Because...
August 31, 2016 at 8:48 am
(This post was last modified: August 31, 2016 at 8:53 am by LadyForCamus.)
(August 30, 2016 at 10:39 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 30, 2016 at 10:15 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: What the ever-loving FUCK?!
Oh, so in THIS thread you feel justified in throwing around that authoritative "I'm a certified arborist, and you're not" hubris? Where was that earlier when I was making that exact comparison regarding others' professions? I thought it was just as easy as looking it up on YouTube? [emoji6]
Simplified even further: An infinite substance has 3 equal spatial relationships with it's own substance. All around itself, at the center of itself ever where, and throughout itself equal as a field in tension equilibrium. These quantize into a sphere around a real point with a tensor field between them.
It instantly establishes curvature, space, and field that permeates that space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curvaton
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_field
These 3 features in the universe are hidden from us. The sphere is the outer membrane where void space turns back into saturated space filled with the original substance now in patterning flow around the sphere. This is "God the Father". The field that interpenetrates, surrounds and connects everything in the universe is the "Holy Spirit", the central point and gravitational ruler of the universe is the "self begotton Son of God." It was born from a "virgin" ocean of matter where no creation (void space) existed before. Interestingly enough, the Latin word for ocean is mari.
And of course you know; the story of the half man half God, savior son, born from a virgin is a story far older than the Jesus account.
I was flabbergasted the person couldn't translate such an obvious metaphor given the biblical usage of trees as a symbol for people/tribes/religions over time. I've worked with them long enough to see exactly why it applies. Certification not required.
If you have no familiarity with either, you'll have to think about it a little to see how it applies. In the other thread I referenced a number of credible sources to back up my assertions. In this one I didn't
False equivalence of situations.
But I truly do appreciate your tenacity
(August 30, 2016 at 8:46 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: Because the idea of gods is absurd. There are no such things. They are the product of imagination and nothing more. Hard core monotheists would agree.
lol, not a false equivalency at all, and your explanation for why you think it is doesn't even make sense given the obvious context of your response to Losty. But, if saving face is more important than making sense, by all means...carry on. [emoji6]
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RE: Christianity Can't Be True Because...
August 31, 2016 at 9:23 am
(August 30, 2016 at 11:09 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 30, 2016 at 10:59 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: You spout some of the most entertaining bullshit.
It's still bullshit though. Thanks!
What I just explained structurally predicts the anatomy and behavior of atoms.
The metaversal model it's part of, geometrically predicts the dark energy constant (on each of infinite universes) within .5% of modern refined estimates.
The geometric structure of the field predicts the natural mathematics of music aka vibration as well as subatomic particle organization.
It is completely deterministic, each universe is the same quanta of the same singularity. A discrete measurement of whole motion out of an infinite field. It blows out of the water both the random "lucky us" drunken bingo machine of the Many Worlds theory as well as "intelligent design."
It is deterministic, geometric and the evidence is within you and all around you. How many places and at what scales have you looked? What do you bring to the table?
Wow; we can't wait to see your Nobel prize. Or your Templeton prize for that matter! ?
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RE: Christianity Can't Be True Because...
August 31, 2016 at 9:24 am
(August 30, 2016 at 11:09 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 30, 2016 at 10:59 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: You spout some of the most entertaining bullshit.
It's still bullshit though. Thanks!
What I just explained structurally predicts the anatomy and behavior of atoms.
The metaversal model it's part of, geometrically predicts the dark energy constant (on each of infinite universes) within .5% of modern refined estimates.
The geometric structure of the field predicts the natural mathematics of music aka vibration as well as subatomic particle organization.
It is completely deterministic, each universe is the same quanta of the same singularity. A discrete measurement of whole motion out of an infinite field. It blows out of the water both the random "lucky us" drunken bingo machine of the Many Worlds theory as well as "intelligent design."
It is deterministic, geometric and the evidence is within you and all around you. How many places and at what scales have you looked? What do you bring to the table?
Wow; we can't wait to see the Nobel prize for your TOE. Or, your Templeton prize for that matter! ?
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RE: Christianity Can't Be True Because...
August 31, 2016 at 10:35 am
(August 29, 2016 at 11:28 pm)Arkilogue Wrote: (August 29, 2016 at 11:00 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: Christianity is not true because I actually read the bible using critical thinking skills.
You shouldn't believe everything you read....or else you'll end up thinking these guys are actual Christians.
They are. They follow the strictures contained within the bible, unlike a la carte christians, who think they can take what they like and ditch the rest.
But then again, I'm not surprised that somebody who thinks electromagnetism worked differently before humanity discovered how it works thinks that ignoring the rules in the bible is necessary to be a christian.
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RE: Christianity Can't Be True Because...
August 31, 2016 at 10:44 am
Conveniently for the rest of us, the LDS poohbahs have done all the heavy lifting necessary to disprove their own faith. Subsequently altering all of God's revelations after He transmitted them is overwhelming and incontrovertible proof Mormonism is of man, and not of God.
And of all the 100+ Mormon schisms, not one has deigned to use all the unaltered versions of the revelations either.
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RE: Christianity Can't Be True Because...
August 31, 2016 at 10:46 am
"Christianity" can't be true if and only if that means all sects of Christianity because many certainly contradict each other.
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