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Is the Hadith a Forgery?

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Is the Hadith a Forgery?
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RE: Is the Hadith a Forgery?
September 11, 2016 at 7:28 pm
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RE: Is the Hadith a Forgery?
September 11, 2016 at 7:31 pm
(September 11, 2016 at 5:01 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: It depends on your personal beliefs about history.
History is written by the victors, also history in the Ancient world wasn't documented probably; you can see examples allover the world.

Even natives of Arabia and Persia are fighting for 1400 years over history books and Hadith books.

Personally? I quit believing in the Hadith. I can never trust its authors.

The Hadiths are really no different than calling it a supplement "side book" like the Torah and Talmud are to Jews and "The book of Mormon" are to Mormons.

Main holy books and their supplements are still based on the naked assertion that the claimed god of each has rules and a plan, but they all are under the idea that a fictional super hero exists. It is basically humans guessing at what they think a god wants, be it in the main book or the supplement. 

You shouldn't trust the Hadiths or Quran or Bible or Torah or Talmud or Bible or Buddha or the Vedas. You should value our modern knowledge over antiquity written by humans who didn't know any better.
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RE: Is the Hadith a Forgery?
September 11, 2016 at 8:27 pm
(September 11, 2016 at 5:01 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: It depends on your personal beliefs about history.
History is written by the victors, also history in the Ancient world wasn't documented probably; you can see examples allover the world.

Even natives of Arabia and Persia are fighting for 1400 years over history books and Hadith books.

Personally? I quit believing in the Hadith. I can never trust its authors.

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RE: Is the Hadith a Forgery?
September 16, 2016 at 4:01 pm
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RE: Is the Hadith a Forgery?
September 16, 2016 at 4:51 pm (This post was last modified: September 16, 2016 at 4:52 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
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RE: Is the Hadith a Forgery?
September 17, 2016 at 4:30 am
(September 9, 2016 at 3:10 pm)Alex K Wrote: Given their nature, how could they be forgeries? What would it mean for the Hadiths to be forgeries?

Indeed there is no real Christianity or Islam or whatever because it is all made up. None of it is inspired or written by god or gods so all the papers letters and books associated with them are not real. Is the suggestion that the hadith is like Marvel fan fiction and not part of Iron mans official cannon?



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RE: Is the Hadith a Forgery?
September 17, 2016 at 7:25 am (This post was last modified: September 17, 2016 at 7:36 am by ReptilianPeon.)

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