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The unmoved mover
#31
RE: The unmoved mover
(September 23, 2016 at 4:24 pm)Thena323 Wrote: The mover is MiraLAX. Safe and effective.

You need to stop beating me to the punch. I was going with bisacodyl. I think he needs the intestinal cramping.
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#32
RE: The unmoved mover
(September 23, 2016 at 7:11 pm)mh.brewer Wrote:
(September 23, 2016 at 4:24 pm)Thena323 Wrote: The mover is MiraLAX. Safe and effective.

You need to stop beating me to the punch. I was going with bisacodyl. I think he needs the intestinal cramping.

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#33
RE: The unmoved mover
(September 23, 2016 at 7:11 pm)mh.brewer Wrote: You need to stop beating me to the punch. I was going with bisacodyl. I think he needs the intestinal cramping.

Don't you dare put bisacodyl in that punch.
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#34
RE: The unmoved mover
Quote:Yes the concept has ancient origins.

Also true of sacrificing virgins to a volcano.  So what?
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#35
RE: The unmoved mover
(September 23, 2016 at 6:32 pm)Jehanne Wrote:
(September 23, 2016 at 5:52 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Actually, he could not. Since E=mc^2, then the  the speed of light would be square root of energy divided by an infinite mass. I'm no mathematician, but I'm pretty sure that any finite quantity divided by infinity is also infinite, so we're left with the untenable position than a known finite quantity is infinite.

I think.

Boru

It would be an infinitesimal:

http://www.vias.org/calculus/01_real_and...05_06.html

Fair enough, but I think my point still stands. We KNOW what the speed of light is, and it is not an infinitesimal.

Boru
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#36
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So....no rapture then?
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#37
RE: The unmoved mover
(September 23, 2016 at 7:49 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 23, 2016 at 6:32 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It would be an infinitesimal:

http://www.vias.org/calculus/01_real_and...05_06.html

Fair enough, but I think my point still stands.  We KNOW what the speed of light is, and it is not an infinitesimal.

Boru

Only mass-less particles (such as photons, also electromagnetic waves) can travel at c, the speed of light.  Neutrinos cruise just under c.
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#38
RE: The unmoved mover
(September 23, 2016 at 1:51 am)fdesilva Wrote: Consider jumping on a trampoline. You move a lot and so does the trampoline.  
Jumping on the floor you move the floor not.
Consider the Moon going round the earth. The earth’s  gravity keeps the moon going round while the moons gravity has noticeable effects on the earth like causing tides.
However take  a man made satellite going round the earth.  The earth is able to move it round and round, but the satellite will hardly ever effect the earth.
So if one body is of a much greater mass than another then you have an unmoved mover.
Suppose something was of infinite mass then anything of finite mass would be moved by it but itself will be unmoved.

Infinite mass must then make room for finite space in some manner...because a spatially infinite mass contains no space anywhere forever.

In order for any of it to move, there must be a counter movement in the opposite direction. The Unmoved Mover stays in place and creates motive force by moving both directions at once.
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#39
RE: The unmoved mover
(September 23, 2016 at 5:10 am)Alex K Wrote: If God has infinite mass, he also exerts infinite gravity and crushes everything into pulp.
Sounds about right!
Mass that is infinitely spatial not infinitely dense, just 100%. And you can open a stable void bubble under water with sound.....or a movement so fast that the water cavitates behind it.

Fun Fact: Pistol shrimp move their claw thumb so fast that the water cavitates behind it and the crush of vapor back together by water pressure produces temperatures of the surface of the sun. The resulting shock-wave stuns prey from a distance. 1:07 is the money shot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC6I8iPiHT8
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Consider me a satellite forever orbiting,
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#40
RE: The unmoved mover
(September 23, 2016 at 7:49 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(September 23, 2016 at 6:32 pm)Jehanne Wrote: It would be an infinitesimal:

http://www.vias.org/calculus/01_real_and...05_06.html

Fair enough, but I think my point still stands.  We KNOW what the speed of light is, and it is not an infinitesimal.

Boru
It's also not fixed... http://www.sciencealert.com/these-4-cosm...d-of-light

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When objects travel faster than the speed of sound, they generate a sonic boom. So, in theory, if something travels faster than the speed of light, it should produce something like a "luminal boom". In fact, this light boom happens on a daily basis in facilities around the world - you can see it with your own eyes. It's called Cherenkov radiation, and it shows up as a blue glow inside of nuclear reactors, like in the image above.

Cherenkov radiation is named for Soviet scientist Pavel Alekseyevich Cherenkov, who first measured it in 1934 and was awarded the Nobel Physics Prize in 1958 for his discovery.

Cherenkov radiation glows because the core of the Advanced Test Reactor is submerged in water to keep it cool. In water, light travels at 75 percent the speed it would in the vacuum of outer space, but the electrons created by the reaction inside of the core travel through the water faster than the light does.

Particles, like these electrons, that surpass the speed of light in water, or some other medium such as glass, create a shock wave similar to the shock wave from a sonic boom.
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