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The unmoved mover
September 23, 2016 at 1:51 am
Consider jumping on a trampoline. You move a lot and so does the trampoline.
Jumping on the floor you move the floor not.
Consider the Moon going round the earth. The earth’s gravity keeps the moon going round while the moons gravity has noticeable effects on the earth like causing tides.
However take a man made satellite going round the earth. The earth is able to move it round and round, but the satellite will hardly ever effect the earth.
So if one body is of a much greater mass than another then you have an unmoved mover.
Suppose something was of infinite mass then anything of finite mass would be moved by it but itself will be unmoved.
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RE: The unmoved mover
September 23, 2016 at 2:12 am
So, essentially:
"Here's a rule that applies to everything. And here's my god, who breaks that rule."
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RE: The unmoved mover
September 23, 2016 at 2:19 am
Dude what are you even talking about
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RE: The unmoved mover
September 23, 2016 at 2:47 am
Outdated Aristotelian physics are outdated.
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RE: The unmoved mover
September 23, 2016 at 2:57 am
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2016 at 3:00 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 23, 2016 at 1:51 am)fdesilva Wrote: So if one body is of a much greater mass than another then you have an unmoved mover. No, you don't. Perhaps taking the time to familiarize yourself with the term would be worthwhile?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmoved_mover
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RE: The unmoved mover
September 23, 2016 at 3:57 am
Also, if I jump up and down on the Earth, I still have an infinitesimal effect on the Earth. It is negligible, but it is there.
Fail. Fail pretty hard, too.
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RE: The unmoved mover
September 23, 2016 at 4:44 am
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OK I considered it. It appears to have no relevance whatsoever to anything.
What's next?
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RE: The unmoved mover
September 23, 2016 at 5:01 am
(September 23, 2016 at 3:57 am)SteelCurtain Wrote: Also, if I jump up and down on the Earth, I still have an infinitesimal effect on the Earth. It is negligible, but it is there.
Fail. Fail pretty hard, too.
Exactly my thoughts as I read the OP.
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RE: The unmoved mover
September 23, 2016 at 5:03 am
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This is all an attempt to try and convince us that this guy is worshipping something rather than nothing, yes?
I'm really not bothered. Worship is a creepy idea regardless.
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RE: The unmoved mover
September 23, 2016 at 5:10 am
(This post was last modified: September 23, 2016 at 5:11 am by Alex K.)
If God has infinite mass, he also exerts infinite gravity and crushes everything into pulp.
Sounds about right!
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