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A Loving God
RE: A Loving God
(September 26, 2016 at 6:40 pm)Lek Wrote:
(September 26, 2016 at 6:11 pm)Cato Wrote: Jesus doesn't have to say much of anything either, all he has to do is swallow. Does he? If not, I couldn't be bothered.

Jesus has much to say.  Some listen and believe; some listen and don't believe; most just don't listen.  I can't make people listen or believe.  I just put his word out because God wants me to and I care about people and want the best for them.  The rest, I don't worry too much about.

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Do people who haven't heard of Jesus, or what standards he expects, go to heaven?

Yes: Stop telling people then!

No: He's a complete arse hole who will punish people simply based on what they happen to be told or stumble across in their life. Why would you want to associate with this?
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RE: A Loving God
(September 27, 2016 at 6:53 am)robvalue Wrote: Do people who haven't heard of Jesus, or what standards he expects, go to heaven?

Yes: Stop telling people then!

No: He's a complete arse hole who will punish people simply based on what they happen to be told or stumble across in their life. Why would you want to associate with this?

You just brushed off everything meaningful I brought up about God's love for us in this thread. We want to associate with him because we know what it is to have him dwelling in us. We experience his love Rob.
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RE: A Loving God
(September 27, 2016 at 11:38 am)Lek Wrote:
(September 27, 2016 at 6:53 am)robvalue Wrote: Do people who haven't heard of Jesus, or what standards he expects, go to heaven?

Yes: Stop telling people then!

No: He's a complete arse hole who will punish people simply based on what they happen to be told or stumble across in their life. Why would you want to associate with this?

You just brushed off everything meaningful I brought up about God's love for us in this thread.  We want to associate with him because we know what it is to have him dwelling in us.  We experience his love Rob.

I do not believe you experience any love from god. If you feel something it is simply a function of your nervous system.
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Love is a pretty human sounding emotion, huh. And even in humans, it's not shown by hiding from people then punishing them for not noticing which cupboard you're in.

I see a world totally abandoned, personally. I don't see any external love. I see people scrabbling to survive, and everything that gets done is what they do. The rest is the roll of the dice.
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RE: A Loving God
(September 27, 2016 at 11:38 am)Lek Wrote:
(September 27, 2016 at 6:53 am)robvalue Wrote: Do people who haven't heard of Jesus, or what standards he expects, go to heaven?

Yes: Stop telling people then!

No: He's a complete arse hole who will punish people simply based on what they happen to be told or stumble across in their life. Why would you want to associate with this?

You just brushed off everything meaningful I brought up about God's love for us in this thread.  We want to associate with him because we know what it is to have him dwelling in us.  We experience his love Rob.

What exactly did you bring up about the love of this God of yours? That he would allow his own servants to suffer atrocity, although he could've stopped it? That's not love. It's apathy - or better yet, a rationalization, on your part, to keep believing that God exists, and is somehow involved in overseeing everything.
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RE: A Loving God
(September 27, 2016 at 11:38 am)Lek Wrote:
(September 27, 2016 at 6:53 am)robvalue Wrote: Do people who haven't heard of Jesus, or what standards he expects, go to heaven?

Yes: Stop telling people then!

No: He's a complete arse hole who will punish people simply based on what they happen to be told or stumble across in their life. Why would you want to associate with this?

You just brushed off everything meaningful I brought up about God's love for us in this thread.  We want to associate with him because we know what it is to have him dwelling in us.  We experience his love Rob.

To be more accurate, you experience an intense positive feeling which you attribute to a higher power.
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(September 27, 2016 at 12:03 pm)chimp3 Wrote:
(September 27, 2016 at 11:38 am)Lek Wrote: You just brushed off everything meaningful I brought up about God's love for us in this thread.  We want to associate with him because we know what it is to have him dwelling in us.  We experience his love Rob.

I do not believe you experience any love from god. If you feel something it is simply a function of your nervous system.

I experienced a love so intimate and inescapable it was terrifying to the ego that wanted to remain alone and in darkness.
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