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RE: What computer do you have?
September 26, 2016 at 8:23 am
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(September 26, 2016 at 3:58 am)Aractus Wrote: Apple hardware suffers from planned obsolescence, is non-user-serviceable, poor quality, and over priced. If a Macbook was the same quality as a Thinkpad, I'd give Apple full credit.
In your opinion, maybe. However I have owned several non-Apple laptops in my life and none have been as durable, or have lasted longer than my MacBooks. My wife is currently using my 2009 MacBook Pro with all the original hardware and it works just as well as the day I got it. It might need a RAM upgrade soon, but that's easy enough (yes, it is user-serviceable despite what you claim).
So if planned obsolescence means it will last 7 years, I'm fine with that, and I'm also fine with the price tag.
I had a Lenovo laptop where the left click button snapped (shitty plastic), and an HP laptop which overheated and killed the processor. Never had any issues with my MacBooks and that's why I'll keep buying them.
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RE: What computer do you have?
September 26, 2016 at 8:25 am
Atm it's Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0, R7 370, 8GB DDR2 RAM and 750W PSU but soon it will be like this: Core i5 or i7, an nVidia performance equivalent of R7 370, 8GB DDR3 and 750W PSU. I'm in the process of upgrading my PC and so far I got the RAM and the PSU and by the end of 2017 I'll have 32GB DDR3 (1600 MHz). Very soon I'll get ASUS B85+ with 1150 socket. And the video card will be changed to nVidia because the AMD drivers crash too often - sometimes 5 times a day and I can't play any game with such crappy drivers.
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RE: What computer do you have?
September 26, 2016 at 12:13 pm
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RE: What computer do you have?
September 26, 2016 at 12:17 pm
(September 26, 2016 at 7:17 am)Jörmungandr Wrote: Asus used to be tops, but I've heard their support system has gone to the dogs.
I've got a co-worker that is fighting with ASUS support right now over his ROG laptop.
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RE: What computer do you have?
September 27, 2016 at 3:06 am
(September 26, 2016 at 8:23 am)Tiberius Wrote: In your opinion, maybe. However I have owned several non-Apple laptops in my life and none have been as durable, or have lasted longer than my MacBooks. My wife is currently using my 2009 MacBook Pro with all the original hardware and it works just as well as the day I got it. It might need a RAM upgrade soon, but that's easy enough (yes, it is user-serviceable despite what you claim).
So if planned obsolescence means it will last 7 years, I'm fine with that, and I'm also fine with the price tag.
User-serviceable means that you can replace the most common bits that wear out - in a laptop that's means the battery is the most important. Tell me can you buy a $40 battery from a store and install it, or do you need to give it to Apple so they can "service it" for you for $130? Worse still is the fact that Apple builds-in the batteries too, to further discourage user replacement. There's no valid reason to build it in, and plenty of good reasons not to. For example, you can use your laptop without needing a power source for twice as long if you take two batteries with you - whoops, can't do that with a Macbook.
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RE: What computer do you have?
September 27, 2016 at 3:33 am
Most builders are doing the battery inside nowadays, tbh.
I would love a MacBook for sure. I need an Apple platform at some point. But for a quality one out of the box, you're not going to find one for under 2k.
The difference is not worth the extra $1000 for me, at this point.
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RE: What computer do you have?
September 27, 2016 at 8:22 am
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September 27, 2016 at 9:19 am
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RE: What computer do you have?
September 27, 2016 at 10:20 am
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RE: What computer do you have?
September 27, 2016 at 7:24 pm
Tiberius, I'm sorry, but you lose this argument. Apple has a deliberate policy of overcharging for repairs, or for doing unnecessary repairs, especially for items that are no longer under warranty. It's one of the many ways that Apple finds to keep draining customers' money after the initial sale.
It's not uncommon, for example, that a simple chip burns out on a motherboard, and Apple insists that the motherboard must be replaced for hundreds of dollars, when a $10 chip and two minutes with a soldering iron could completely restore the product. PC repair doesn't have this problem-- because you can literally choose almost any tech dude within 10 km who can diagnose hardware problems and either fix them, replace them with used parts, or sell one of multiple alternatives from various companies to repair the product.
Now, I'm not saying that Mac products are bad. Obviously, they are good, because many high-end professionals choose them. But Apple's customer culture is patronizing and downright insulting. I fucking hate that company so much, not because of what they make, but because of how they think about customers-- Sheeple, for sure.
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