What do men think? What do feminists think that men think?

[c172]

I need to stop dropping by this thread first thing in the morning.

[Ben Davis]

That's a very accurate explanation of the origins of patriarchal institutions of marriage and the modern, westernised archetype. It's not the only definition as there were other types of marriage that treated partners as equals, often in cultures where homosexual relationships were accepted. It's not an accurate representation of marriage today, in most cultures, but there are still institutionalised bigotries which result from those origins. It's one of the reasons why I'm opposed to marriage, in principle.

I suppose feminists should be single or divorced....

I think you'll find that feminists who care about such things (as not all do) will choose a partner who won't seek to oppress them through matrimony, whether that partner is male or not.

Why do you see valid criticisms of marriage as a 'RadFem' issue, specifically?

[Losty]

[Faith No More]

Feminists ate my baby.

[Mermaid]

Feminists are causing the Oklahoma earthquakes.

[Ben Davis]

Feminist welfare-abusing single mothers stole my wheelie bin

[Losty]

Not the wheelie bin! This has gone too far!

[Ben Davis]

AtheFeminists ate my baby.

Fixed

[Catholic_Lady]

I will answer the questions with another question.

Why does it always seem to be non-feminists who want to talk about feminism the most? I've never seen a feminist start that topic here.

Maybe there are no feminists in this forum?
Maybe they are too busy organizing feminist revolt against male oppression?
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On a more serious note... Feminists like to claim that they don't hate men, yet they come up with a term, 'Male chauvinist pig', that objectifies men, reducing them to animals. (and at the same time, these hypocrites criticize men for objectification of women).

Feminist is a broad term, which is why I choose not to use it. 

It can mean anything from someone who thinks women should have all the same legal rights as men, to someone who literally hates men. Two very different ends of the spectrum. If you're referring to the latter type of feminist, you need to make that clear. Otherwise you're just making a very unfair and rash generalization.

[Whateverist]

Maybe there are no feminists in this forum?
Maybe they are too busy organizing feminist revolt against male oppression?
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On a more serious note... Feminists like to claim that they don't hate men, yet they come up with a term, 'Male chauvinist pig', that objectifies men, reducing them to animals. (and at the same time, these hypocrites criticize men for objectification of women).

Feminist is a broad term, which is why I choose not to use it. 

It can mean anything from someone who thinks women should have all the same legal rights as men, to someone who literally hates men. Two very different ends of the spectrum. If you're referring to the latter type of feminist, you need to make that clear. Otherwise you're just making a very unfair and rash generalization.

Well yes feminism is primarily concerned with broads but men who tend to feel guilty about things also have a role to play, mostly involving self-flagellation.

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