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Got to agree with SteelCurtain on this one.
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(October 29, 2016 at 8:09 pm)Aroura Wrote: Look Tazi, it all changes depending on what people feel is most important. (also, stop saying Drumpf andstuff, it just looks childish, really no better than when people say Hitlery).

CL may be willing to overlook Trumps faults and lack of any experience because he is on the side of an important issue to her.  I'm guessing, abortion (possibly immigration?  I don't know much of her social views, just the abortion stance).  He wants to make abortion illegal again at the federal level.  Other people dislike Trump but are willing to vote for him because of the supreme court issues (they want to repeal gay marriage, abortion, and see this country become more socially conservative again), or about immigration (they fear the other, and Trump play hard to those fears), etc.

She would not be the only person who looks sideways at Hillary for her social policies, the same policies you and I see as reasons to vote for her, are reasons CL may not like her.  Everyone has different priorities.  IT doesn't make CL blind or stupid, just different from you.  If we can't stop name calling and being insulting, how do you think we will ever come together as a country?  Hear her out.  Find common ground.  If you really believe Hillary is going to help our country and Trump hurt it, then give better reasoning ON THOSE COMMON GROUNDS than that Trump is an a-hole.  We already all know that.

This is one of the reasons I think are politics have become more polorized, is because they have come to revolve more and more around social issues.  

So here is my reasoning, CL, as to why I think Hillary will be better than Trump for all Americans, Liberal and conservative.  
1) Experience. You may not like the fact that she is a lifelong politician, but would you hire an inexperienced person to do...well...anything important? The president is the highest level of politics in our country.  It seems best, to me, to hire someone experienced at the job, even if her experience isn't all good.  Would you hire someone who had never taken an engineering class to design and build a highrise building?

2) Diplomacy.  She will keep foreign relations stable (regardless of rhetoric you may have heard).  We have very good foreign relations right now in comparison to what they were in 2004.  Trump insults, attacks, and sues literally everyone who he perceives has slighted him.  How well do you think that will work when a country leader insults him, even on accident?  Do you honestly believe he would be able to handle it in a mature and political manor?

3) Guts.  Hillary has been under deep scrutiny, and even attack, her entire career.  She can stand cool and calm while someone calls her terrible names right to her face.  She has fought on with her career of choice, even though people dislike her, against all odds, she fights on.
Trump gives up and files bankrupcy, and blames everyone else for all of his woes, on a regular basis.  Who do you want as president, a fighter or a quitter?

Yes, some policy may be against your personal opinion.  I don't like all of her policies either.  But these are the fundamental questions that we need to ask about ANY person we wish to vote for as president.

Also, hi, and hope you are feeling well. Smile

Well, you base your choice on the person who says they follow your principles and give you what you want in a few areas (and lets be honest here, pols like that tend to take away far more important stuff you need rather than give you what you think you want), or you can take an objective look at what the pol actually is and make your choice based on that.

And while I do vulgarise Trump an awful lot, at this stage in the race even a cursory glance, when looked at objectively, will show I'm not far off, in substance.
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(October 29, 2016 at 8:47 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I actually don't consider Trump to be pro life at all. I know he claims to be, but I am hard pressed to believe him. I think the only person he cares about is himself quite honestly.

Two things for you:
1) Anti abortion =/= pro life. Firstly you're prvileging a group of cells over a living breathing woman. Second you are forcing that same woman into a course of action which she doesn't want to take and which will radically change her life.
2) Very few republican pols are anti abortion. They simply don't care about having anti abortion laws where they are, because they can afford to travel to where abortion is legal, and poor people don't count in their eyes.
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(October 29, 2016 at 7:46 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: As far as their character and integrity go, they both seem equally pretty bad. Hilary is just more politically correct with how she says things. At the end of the day they are both greedy and dishonest and only out for themselves. I can't and won't stand behind either of them.

Good for you, C_L!

I don't mean that in a sarcastic way by the way. Smile
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You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

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