God exists subjectively?

[theologian]

Aquinas has been discredited.

I have yet to see correct discrediting of him. For, all objections I have seen are missing the point. For instance, some thought he doesn't tell what cause God if everything has a cause, yet St. Thomas Aquinas didn't hold that everything has a cause. But, to miss the point is to miss pointing what is wrong, and to miss pointing what is wrong is to not really discredit.

[Silver]

For, all objections I have seen are missing the point.

Of course your personal bias would fail to see the logic in discrediting him.

[Whateverist]

My personal bias sees him discredited. That's two to one. Checkmate.

[theologian]

For, all objections I have seen are missing the point.

Of course your personal bias would fail to see the logic in discrediting him.

Care to demonstrate it here? I will do my best to comment, so to see if that is really a personal bias of mine or not. Is that fair?

My personal bias sees him discredited.  That's two to one.  Checkmate.

Well, philosophy is not about voting, but about demonstration. Care to demonstrate it here? Again, I'll do my best to counter your demonstration, so to really see whether it is due to my personal bias or not. Do you agree?

[Whateverist]

Of course your personal bias would fail to see the logic in discrediting him.

Care to demonstrate it here? I will do my best to comment, so to see if that is really a personal bias of mine or not. Is that fair?

My personal bias sees him discredited.  That's two to one.  Checkmate.

Well, philosophy is not about voting, but about demonstration. Care to demonstrate it here? Again, I'll do my best to counter your demonstration, so to really see whether it is due to my personal bias or not. Do you agree?

Hell no.  I'll see you impeached!

[henryp]

God exists as a concept.  

For a concept to be considered reality, there must exist the proper evidence to support it.

There has never been evidence to support the existence of god, despite there having occurred throughout history many proofs for the existence of many concepts.

Clearly, you don't need proper evidence to consider God a reality as so many do.  What we experience (or your word, conceptualize) as reality is not bound by rules of logic/physics/etc...

Your brain just has to trick you into believing God is real, and in the reality you experience, there is some God.  

Again, you keep saying concept vs. reality, but humans experience their conceptualization of the world.  Not the reality of the world.

[Silver]

Care to demonstrate it here?

http://www.vorpal.us/2007/10/the-five-wa...dead-ends/

[Silver]

God exists as a concept.  

For a concept to be considered reality, there must exist the proper evidence to support it.

There has never been evidence to support the existence of god, despite there having occurred throughout history many proofs for the existence of many concepts.

Clearly, you don't need proper evidence to consider God a reality as so many do.  What we experience (or your word, conceptualize) as reality is not bound by rules of logic/physics/etc...

Your brain just has to trick you into believing God is real, and in the reality you experience, there is some God.  

Again, you keep saying concept vs. reality, but humans experience their conceptualization of the world.  Not the reality of the world.

Did you misquote?

[The Grand Nudger]

3. It is not true that there are no evidence to support the existence of God. The 5 ways of St. Thomas Aquinas is an evidence that God exist and to deny that is to deny both reality and logic, for his 5 ways are arguments which starts from the things we can sense with our 5 senses and it proceed with valid logic and true premises like principle of sufficient reason.

Well look at that, yet another word you only understand when it suits you...add it to the growing list.  No, aquinas five ways aren't -evidence-...they're -arguments-... :looks up:

I find them less than compelling.

[henryp]

Clearly, you don't need proper evidence to consider God a reality as so many do.  What we experience (or your word, conceptualize) as reality is not bound by rules of logic/physics/etc...

Your brain just has to trick you into believing God is real, and in the reality you experience, there is some God.  

Again, you keep saying concept vs. reality, but humans experience their conceptualization of the world.  Not the reality of the world.

Did you misquote?

I think I was just trying to steal  you back to my discussion from the other guy.