Trump is president; Who is to blame?

[Kingpin]

You're calling people who make $50,000 high-earners?

You're familar with the term "more than"? Cause that's what it says. Apart from 50.000 already meaning they're making approximately 4.000 a month. You think that the average truck driver or field hand or office clerk gets that kind of money?

Actually quite a few truck drivers in the U.S. exceed $100K/year.  Most automotive line workers also exceed $50K/year thanks to union deals.

[FatAndFaithless]

This day has been rough enough without a fresh layer of shit-glaze from Drich. I'll stick him on ignore for now.

[Whateverist]

I understand where you are coming from and the frustration but how do you account for Trump getting 45% of the votes from college educated women?  Of all the exit poll numbers, that one to me speaks the loudest.

I guess you got that number from the Guardian also. Here are two other numbers surprising me a bit.

Broken down by income bracket, 52% of voters earning less than $50,000 a year – who make up 36% of the electorate – voted for Clinton, and 41% for Trump.

But among the 64% of American voters who earn more than $50,000 a year, 49% chose Trump, and 47% Clinton.

So it was the high earners rooting for Trump. Usually it's the lowest segment, being afraid for their jobs, voting for rightwing populists.

Figures.  They're the ones that can afford to strip away the social safety net.  I wonder if we can just herd the poor into factories, turn them into Soylent green and make money selling them to the catholic church to use as wafers.

[abaris]

Actually quite a few truck drivers in the U.S. exceed $100K/year.  Most automotive line workers also exceed $50K/year thanks to union deals.

In that case the definition of well off is certainly different. Truck driving in Europe is one of the least desirable job options because of low pay and high responsibility. Automotive workers, well yes. They're usually pretty well paid, but still, how many people actually top 50.000 a year?

I just checked various sources. The median income in the USA is considered to be 30- to 40.000. In my country it's roughly 30.000 before taxes also.

[Whateverist]

Simple people wanting simple solutions to complex problems fell for the bullshit of a con artist.

I'm quite glad I do not have grandchildren.

Ditto.  But I feel for my friends who ask what they should tell their kids.  "Don't be a sucker" comes to mind.

[Whateverist]

You're familar with the term "more than"? Cause that's what it says. Apart from 50.000 already meaning they're making approximately 4.000 a month. You think that the average truck driver or field hand or office clerk gets that kind of money?

Actually quite a few truck drivers in the U.S. exceed $100K/year.  Most automotive line workers also exceed $50K/year thanks to union deals.

Trump won't allow unions in his businesses.  Wonder how that bodes for the soon to be working-poorer.

[Kosh]

In my opinion Hillary was held to an almost insurmountable set of standards by friend and foe. Trump was held to no standards. The worse he became, the more endearing he became to his supporters. I knew we were in trouble from the time he made a comment about shooting someone and not losing a vote. Sure, some republican leaders feigned disgust, but not the general public.

[Iroscato]

This day has been rough enough without a fresh layer of shit-glaze from Drich. I'll stick him on ignore for now.

There are times I miss being able to do that.

[abaris]

Trump won't allow unions in his businesses.  Wonder how that bodes for the soon to be working-poorer.

They never do the reality checks and that's also an international phenomenon. They only listen to what is said but never check what that actually means for them. For the most part these rightwingers are fiscal conservatives, which means less social benefits, less social security and worse working conditions. That's why I'm always surprised why low earners and the workers in general fall for their tune. Probably because there's no counterweight when it comes to information.

[Faith No More]

Lol, "destruction of U.S. industry." Is that why unemployment is down to 4.9% and Obama added 9.3 million jobs compared to the 5.2 million added by his predecessor?

This is why we have Trump. Because we're full of morons who are convinced they're thinking for themselves by swallowing total bullshit.

That and the Democrats are truly inept.