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Differences from societal norms
#11
RE: Differences from societal norms
with me
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#12
RE: Differences from societal norms
(November 13, 2016 at 9:12 am)robvalue Wrote: Each society develops, over time, an idea of what is and isn't "acceptable". This isn't written down anywhere; it just represents a mix of opinions at any given time. These are the norms of a society.

So my question is this: in what ways do your own ideas differ from the society you are currently in? How closely do you feel attuned to it? What do you think should be viewed more favourably, and what do you think deserves more scorn?

Your question made me think of this article entitled Biology Enables. Culture Forbids.

https://www.farnamstreetblog.com/2016/11...restricts/

“From a biological perspective, nothing is unnatural.
Whatever is possible is by definition also natural.”
— Yuval Harari
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#13
RE: Differences from societal norms
I am not a flag saluter and don't stand for the national anthem. I do not watch sports except Olympic judo and sumo (on occasion). I vote libertarian but believe there are societal problems best solved with collectivist methods. I think we just elected a tyrant. Expatriation to Central America is looking mighty appealing.
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#14
RE: Differences from societal norms
I tend to heap great quantities of scorn on the following societal norms:

-Soldiers are admirable simply by virtue of being soldiers.

-Differing opinions carry equal weight.

-Something homemade is better (and therefore better for you) than something bought at a shop.

-Things were better in 'the old days'.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#15
RE: Differences from societal norms
Going by what Europe more and more turns into, I differ in not being a Xenophobe, not smelling a terrorist lurking at every corner, not being afraid of being a victim of violence or terrorism, not being a nationalist with nationalism representing regressive chimp behavior in my opinion.

Everything else is pretty much in line with societal norms, since - so far - there's still some level of shame getting vocal against social liberalism, such as gay partnerships or discriminating against transgender people. But I guess, that will change too, so add this to the list.
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#16
RE: Differences from societal norms
(November 13, 2016 at 10:06 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: -Differing opinions carry equal weight.

This. So much this. I am also very very strongly against this very common opinion. And society as a whole seems to cast me off as anti-social because of it. But personally I think that that is very useful because it's a good way for me to spot the unworthies... an "unworthy" being part of the very large group of people I shall deem the Moronically Myopic Morally Mediocre Mass ™ , also known as the MMMM.

I also think it's ironic when I'm cat off as anti-social because I think society as a whole is more hostile and "anti-social" than myself. In other words, "different from the majority of society" is seen as "opposed to society". I think that if society was mostly comprised as individuals as non-hostile and pro-social as myself then anyone who was like what most people were like would be seen as anti-social instead.

Basically, TL;DR: my being so-called 'abnormal' is mistook for anti-social.

And my disagreement and differing is seen as an attack. In which case I will 'attack'... verbally, by saying "Fuck you people who take offense at disagreement. Engaging in argumentation is not the same thing as being argumentative. Now bugger off back to your "safe-space".

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#17
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Interesting thread, Rob.

There are several things that are considered normal in society that I have a moral objection to. Pornography, casual sex, abortion... just to name a few.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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#18
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(November 13, 2016 at 10:31 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Interesting thread, Rob.

There are several things that are considered normal in society that I have a moral objection to. Pornography, casual sex, abortion... just to name a few.


Yeah but you're such a rebel, flaunting secular society's edict to only believe in rational things. Big Grin
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#19
RE: Differences from societal norms
(November 13, 2016 at 10:31 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Interesting thread, Rob.

There are several things that are considered normal in society that I have a moral objection to. Pornography, casual sex, abortion... just to name a few.

Abortion I can understand but how can you have a moral objection to activities people willingly engage in?
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#20
RE: Differences from societal norms
(November 13, 2016 at 10:31 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Interesting thread, Rob.

There are several things that are considered normal in society that I have a moral objection to. Pornography, casual sex, abortion... just to name a few.

If you have sex with a complete stranger whom you'll never see again, it isn't 'casual' if at least one of you is wearing a tuxedo.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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