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Differences from societal norms
#21
RE: Differences from societal norms
I think Sex is considered way too taboo, and on the other hand way too special. Chances are your first time will be awkward as fuck.
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#22
RE: Differences from societal norms
(November 13, 2016 at 10:59 am)Divinity Wrote: I think Sex is considered way too taboo, and on the other hand way too special.  Chances are your first time will be an awkward fuck.

Fixed that for you Tongue
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#23
RE: Differences from societal norms
(November 13, 2016 at 10:43 am)Excited Penguin Wrote:
(November 13, 2016 at 10:31 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Interesting thread, Rob.

There are several things that are considered normal in society that I have a moral objection to. Pornography, casual sex, abortion... just to name a few.

Abortion I can understand but how can you have a moral objection to activities people willingly engage in?

Abortion is not only non-harmful but in many or even most cases is morally good.

Pornography and casual sex aren't harmful in themselves but they have the potential for harm. The former can cause addiction and the latter can be dangerous if proper precautions like contraception and having sex with people you trust aren't taken. Also sex-addiction can be harmful like porn-addiction can. All addictions can be harmful. But neither porn nor casual sex are harmful in themselves, they can both be harmless fun.

Nothing wrong with abortions. It's either morally neutral or morally good. It could only be morally bad if the mother was forced to have an abortion. And in fact, in some societies, it's the exact opposite that is forced.
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#24
RE: Differences from societal norms
(November 13, 2016 at 10:59 am)Divinity Wrote: Chances are your first time will be awkward as fuck.

It just depends. Mine wasn't awkward at all. It just hurt really really really badly lol. I'm a little girl, what can I say.  Wink
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#25
RE: Differences from societal norms
(November 13, 2016 at 10:59 am)Divinity Wrote: I think Sex is considered way too taboo, and on the other hand way too special.  Chances are your first time will be awkward as fuck.

I agree it's considered way too taboo. I think it can be both special and non-special. It's not the sex itself that's special, it's who you do it with. Just like any other activity with someone you care about. But the point is... sex doesn't have to be with someone you care about.

I'd love casual sex if offered. But personally I'm done seeking it out because having had a meaningful relationship... looking for anything else feels meaningless to me. Sure, meaningless fun is still fun but I do find meaningful fun more fun. When I want meaningless fun it's much easier for me to just watch some porn than go seeking sex with people who are bound to say "no" 99% of the time just for a bit of meaningless fun which I could have had many times over already with porn. Sex is much better than porn but in my experience... seeking it out isn't worth the effort, for me personally, unless I'm going to get something more meaningful out of it. The amount of rejections I get is exhausting... especially after what I'm really looking for is a relationship and if I want some meaningless fun, I'll stick to porn, as sub-par as that is it's easier. One day I hope to have the best of both worlds by having an online relationship that perhaps one day could become offline. It wouldn't be necessary. I like my fun online more than offline. So far. I've never had any good RL sex. It has all been very vanilla--without even any oral which is my favorite!--and that's boring as fuck. My first RL offline sexual experience was more disappointing than awkward. I prefer porn to that dullness. I'd much rather watch someone eat my favorite pizza than eat some poor quality overdone pizza myself that tasted like shit. It's true that sex is like pizza--even when it's not great it's still pretty fucking good. But sometimes, like all cooked food, it can be done really badly and be boring as fuck.
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#26
RE: Differences from societal norms
Seriously, sex?

That's still an issue in today's western world? I mean, that's certainly the one issue everyone can decide on their own without society taking any influence. It happens in everybody's most private sphere, so society shouldn't have any say in it. If you don't want to have sex, don't have it, if you don't want to have sex before marriage, don't have it. If you're against extramarital sex, don't have it.

Seriously, I never even thought that this was even worth mentioning.
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RE: Differences from societal norms
(November 13, 2016 at 11:29 am)abaris Wrote: Seriously, sex?

That's still an issue in today's western world? I mean, that's certainly the one issue everyone can decide on their own without society taking any influence. It happens in everybody's most private sphere, so society shouldn't have any say in it. If you don't want to have sex, don't have it, if you don't want to have sex before marriage, don't have it. If you're against extramarital sex, don't have it.

Seriously, I never even thought that this was even worth mentioning.

My bold...

I agree, btw. I'm not saying I think it should be illegal or anything lol. I just personally think it's immoral when done outside of marriage, even though society considers it perfectly moral. Just answering the OP's question.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

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#28
RE: Differences from societal norms
(November 13, 2016 at 11:12 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote:
(November 13, 2016 at 10:59 am)Divinity Wrote: Chances are your first time will be awkward as fuck.

It just depends. Mine wasn't awkward at all. It just hurt really really really badly lol. I'm a little girl, what can I say.  Wink

I'm enjoying your posts far too much today Tongue
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#29
RE: Differences from societal norms
(November 13, 2016 at 11:32 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I agree, btw. I'm not saying I think it should be illegal or anything lol. I just personally think it's immoral when done outside of marriage, even though society considers it perfectly moral. Just answering the OP's question.

I'm not ciriticizin you for making your own choice on the matter. I only put into question that one's private life is even worth a discussion. Unless in places where it's still a public issue with third parties feeling like sticking their noses into what's not their business in the first place.
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#30
RE: Differences from societal norms
When I hear stuff like abortion isn't harmful to anyone or that it's perfectly fine morally speaking I not only understand how the liberal's disconnect from reality is complicit in the world going to shit, but I actually somehow celebrate the latter happening.
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