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Does Religion make you nice?
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 Quote:Because of the experiences I have had. I understand and believe you. Perhaps emotionally satisfying, but a closed mind is the mind of the dogmatic apologist and the bigot. Besides,personal anecdotes are so much easier than having to bother with anything as prosaic as evidence. 
superstarr
Junior Member  Religious Views: None. Why? Well why not? Andbecause religions make people become mindless zombies
Religion doesn't make you "nice." Anyone can learn nice manners themselves without any religion. Though, you could say that some beliefs in religion force people to be nice.
Entropist
I'm bored. Entertain me. Religious Views: None, nothing, nada, naught, nil, zero, zip, zilch. (September 2, 2010 at 1:55 am)superstarr Wrote: Though, you could say that some beliefs in religion force people to be nice.Or hypocrites.
“Society is not a disease, it is a disaster. What a stupid miracle that one can live in it.” ~ E.M. Cioran
 RE: Does Religion make you nice?
September 2, 2010 at 2:20 am
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(September 1, 2010 at 11:55 pm)padraic Wrote:Quote:Because of the experiences I have had. So very well put :-) Supperstar and Entropist that is very true as well. It is the characterist of the person personality that makes them nice or hateful but I still think religion can make them closed minded not to see others opinions or reasoning.
"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes" Letter to von Humboldt, 1813
 (August 31, 2010 at 11:33 am)Bull Poopie Wrote: I had to ask for my own curiousity, does religion make you nice? I guess if anyone wants to reply the article below is open to read :-D My first instinct is to say no. People with whatever religion are just as much douchebags with religion as they are without. I could be wrong, though, atheists are quite underrepreseted, apparently, in prison than virtually all other faiths... So the answer I suppose is either "no" or "religion actually makes you more apt to do criminal things."
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925 Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan (September 2, 2010 at 3:35 am)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:(August 31, 2010 at 11:33 am)Bull Poopie Wrote: I had to ask for my own curiousity, does religion make you nice? I guess if anyone wants to reply the article below is open to read :-D I suppose that is true DarkAngel. You don't think that religion doesn't have the tinest bit of influence on people at all? I know atheist are more open minded but we can be bastards as well, when we want to be. I don't know I always think that religion could have a impact on the person because look at the fanatics and religious assholes today. I guess it could depened on the person. Bull Poopie.
"History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes" Letter to von Humboldt, 1813
RE: Does Religion make you nice?
September 2, 2010 at 5:19 am
(This post was last modified: September 2, 2010 at 5:33 am by Live_free.)
My favorite quote. "With or without religion there will be good people do good things and bad people doing bad things. But it takes religion for good people to do bad things"
Statistics actually show quite the opposite of the idea of christian proposed ultimate morality. There is actually proof that shows that the more religious someone is on average the more heinous their crime. Religion on EVERY front is idiotic and self contradictory. (August 31, 2010 at 4:57 pm)Watson Wrote: Just saying that most religious folk are nasty does not make it so...... So can I say that most religious folks are nasty if I linked you to these studies/articles? http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm http://www.utilitarian.net/singer/by/200406--.htm http://www.alternet.org/belief/143912/th...age=entire http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/13/educat...texas.html http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Secular-...igion.aspx Read the "God Delusion", read "God is Not Great". Also do some research, statistically religious people on average commit more heinous crimes. Religion gives people an excuse to do bad things then be "washed in the blood" of jesus (An innocent man killed by his dad for others, yeah makes sense...not) and are forgiven. If anything christian morality is inconceivable bullshit. But this goes onto another debate on morality. I just have to say that you should stop making statements on ideas you obviously don't understand or comprehend very well. 
^Wow. No, linking me to studies still does not prove anything, Live_free. Because study is not applicable to people on an individual basis. Individuals can be nice regardless of their religion or lack thereof, and to say otherwise is to make enormous generalization out of the situation. Don't try to tell me what I do and do not comprehend; you come off as an arrogant prick when you do so, and you prove nothing either way.
I have met many atheists who were kind-hearted people, and I was even in a relationship with one. Likewise, I have met many theists and religious people who were very bigoted and mean-spirited. But the converse is true; I have met atheists who were close-minded fools and theists/religious peopl ewho were extremely warm and welcoming. I will not read 'The God Delusion'; it is written by a conceited twat and has nothing to offer me. I will not read 'God is Not Great', as the same is true of Hitchens as of Dawkins. I don't need their books to 'understand or comprehend very well' that nice people will be nice, and mean people will be mean. Religion or lack thereof has nothing to do with it, and I find it personally insulting for you to insinuate that I somehow do not understand this; believe me, I do, because I have actual life experience with this, whereas all you can show me are studies and statistics. 
Religion makes you an hypocritical prick but that is just my opinion.
There is nothing people will not maintain when they are slaves to superstition
http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.com/  RE: Does Religion make you nice?
September 2, 2010 at 11:42 am
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No it makes you deluded
^Wow. No, linking me to studies still does not prove anything, Live_free. Because study is not applicable to people on an individual basis. Individuals can be nice regardless of their religion or lack thereof, and to say otherwise is to make enormous generalization out of the situation. Don't try to tell me what I do and do not comprehend; you come off as an arrogant prick when you do so, and you prove nothing either way. OOH personal insult!!!!!!!!!!! |
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