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☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
#81
RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
Quote:Min, the fact that you and I are here and have the cognitive reasoning function and conscious self awareness is some evidence.

YOU connect those dots to your ridiculous fairy tales, not me.

The evidence for evolution is overwhelming.  The evidence that your bible is a pile of ancient horseshit is also overwhelming.
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#82
RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
(November 19, 2016 at 2:30 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: If we are products of our environment why are we not all covered in fur still?

Sweat glands.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/scienc...98623.html

Put down your stupid fucking bible and learn some stuff.
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#83
RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
Primates have sweat glands yet are still covered in fur.
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#84
RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
Humans are primates, by direct classification.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#85
RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
(November 19, 2016 at 2:30 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: If we are products of our environment why are we not all covered in fur still?

[Image: could-it-be-evolution.jpg]
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#86
RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
(November 19, 2016 at 11:14 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(November 19, 2016 at 2:30 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: If we are products of our environment why are we not all covered in fur still?

[Image: could-it-be-evolution.jpg]

Where's your proof? All I see is a claim.
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#87
RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
Most everyone here I suspect is from the city. I had a farm for 12 years. I never saw a dog mate with a cow and produce a sheep. When I bred my mares with jacks I got mules. Which are sterile. I understand the idea behind evolution. Would not reject it as one of the tools that God uses to accomplish His plan. Just do not see any compelling evidence for it.
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#88
RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
I love how he just starts preaching. That'll get you far on a forum full of atheists
“Love is the only bow on Life’s dark cloud. It is the morning and the evening star. It shines upon the babe, and sheds its radiance on the quiet tomb. It is the mother of art, inspirer of poet, patriot and philosopher.

It is the air and light of every heart – builder of every home, kindler of every fire on every hearth. It was the first to dream of immortality. It fills the world with melody – for music is the voice of love.

Love is the magician, the enchanter, that changes worthless things to Joy, and makes royal kings and queens of common clay. It is the perfume of that wondrous flower, the heart, and without that sacred passion, that divine swoon, we are less than beasts; but with it, earth is heaven, and we are gods.” - Robert. G. Ingersoll


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#89
RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
(November 19, 2016 at 11:33 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: Most everyone here I suspect is from the city.  I had a farm for 12 years.  I never saw a dog mate with a cow and produce a sheep.   When I bred my mares with jacks I got mules.  Which are sterile.  I understand the idea behind evolution.  Would not reject it as one of the tools that God uses to accomplish His plan.  Just do not see any compelling evidence for it.

If you think that evolution has anything to do with an animal birthing a whole new species then you do not understand the idea behind evolution. Evolution requires such large time scales because the changes are very small and the progress very gradual. If a dog mated with a cow and produced a sheep, that would be proof of a god, not of evolution. The proof of evolution is in the fact that those small changes can be observed and --thanks to advances in genetics-- tracked across entire populations. Both genetics and the fossil record show how that accumulation of tiny changes has led to the continual development of new species, a process that continues today and produces new species today. There's a reason that the scientific disciplines that have the smallest number of theists are those like biology and geology... exactly those areas which would be more religious if any evidence pointed to a god.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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#90
RE: ☢The Theistic Response➼ to Atheists saying, "It Doesn't mean God Did it"
(November 19, 2016 at 11:33 pm)PETE_ROSE Wrote: Most everyone here I suspect is from the city.  I had a farm for 12 years.  I never saw a dog mate with a cow and produce a sheep.   When I bred my mares with jacks I got mules.  Which are sterile.  I understand the idea behind evolution.  Would not reject it as one of the tools that God uses to accomplish His plan.  Just do not see any compelling evidence for it.

Ah, I see the source of your misunderstanding.  You think that evolution is observable in a single generation as a result of inter-species mating, when it actually occurs over many generations within individual species.

If you go far enough back in the evolutionary tree you will find an animal that is the ancestor of dogs, cows and sheep -- but none of them can breed with any other member of the group because the accumulated changes have made their genes too different from one another.  Cows have 60 chromosomes, dogs have 78, and sheep have 54 -- And yes, given enough time chromosomes can either split or merge.
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