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RE: My honest reason for disliking the idea of God
November 25, 2016 at 2:02 am
I agree. The natural world and the creatures that live in it are wondrous when you consider they all came about by a series of physical laws. If a dude shows up and says, "Actualy I made all this", it then becomes an extremely sub-par and cruel sandbox for an idiot deigner.
If a creator was involved at all, it only makes sense to me that it was at the very early stages, like a weird experiment or simulation. Since the creator would likely have no more idea than anyone else how it would all turn out, that still makes it quite spectacular. The idea that it did know how it would all turn out but did it anyway is kind of ridiculous.
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RE: My honest reason for disliking the idea of God
November 25, 2016 at 11:48 am
You gotta give props to believers like, Joker, for cultivating/embracing such depressing or painful mood of "If I live like a selfish whoremonger, then most certainly I will suffer for such bad behavior in afterlife".
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RE: My honest reason for disliking the idea of God
November 25, 2016 at 12:04 pm
I wouldn't say I hate the idea of a god I hate what the idea of god does to humans. I hate how they use it to hurt others and I hate how intelligent people believe in absurd things. Actual idea of god means nothing to me. If god was real and I had to pick I would pick not to follow him still because he isn't worth following but since he isn't real and I don't have to pick it's really nothing to me. I fight humans that hurt other humans in a name of a fake god, I have no battles with any actual gods.
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RE: My honest reason for disliking the idea of God
November 25, 2016 at 12:39 pm
I don't hate the idea of a god. I do hate what some people do when they are enthralled with this fiction.
Likewise, I don't have much of a problem with Jesus. I don't have much use for many of his 'friends' though.
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RE: My honest reason for disliking the idea of God
November 25, 2016 at 2:28 pm
(November 24, 2016 at 5:34 pm)purplepurpose Wrote: I have this universal idea of pleasant life. And Gods idea is "suffocating" this greedy idea of mine. I see a lot of gems in religions like "Be compassionate and forgiving as much as you can". But those ideals are painful and they seem to me as useless or unprofitable for the most part.
So, basically, I dislike idea of God, because I wish to fully "dive" in to the comfortable and pleasant life.
Could others share their main reason for disliking the idea of Gods existence???
I'm a bit confused as to what your question is. Disliking the idea of god's existence? What does that even mean? God doesn't exist. Period.
If you want to live "the good life" and be self-indulgent from time to time, go right ahead. There will be no heaven, hell, or whatever waiting for you once it's over. Just non-existence. If you feel "suffocated" by the idea of god, then stop buying what the religious loons are selling.
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RE: My honest reason for disliking the idea of God
November 25, 2016 at 2:39 pm
I love the idea of god, it's a staple of storytelling. No, not the ex machina that leads to lazy stories, but the notion of an unjustified authority figure who seeks only oppression. In real life it's a terrible notion, but it makes for awesome comic books.
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RE: My honest reason for disliking the idea of God
November 26, 2016 at 4:19 am
(This post was last modified: November 26, 2016 at 4:24 am by robvalue.)
(November 25, 2016 at 11:48 am)purplepurpose Wrote: You gotta give props to believers like, Joker, for cultivating/embracing such depressing or painful mood of "If I live like a selfish whoremonger, then most certainly I will suffer for such bad behavior in afterlife".
Clearly he doesn't believe that though, because it doesn't stop him. I guess he could be a masochist. God kind of fucked of making those, huh?
Actually, a lot of Christians seem to think you can behave however you like but then just ask for forgiveness and you're golden.
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RE: My honest reason for disliking the idea of God
November 26, 2016 at 5:21 am
Divine command theory is both baseless and circular
Theist-god is good because he's god and whatever says is good because he's god
Atheist- WTF
As is natural law
Theist -there is a platonic natural law of good and it's source is god
Atheist how do you know
Theist -there is a platonic natural law of good and it's source is god
And so is divine nature theory
Theist- god is the source of good and the opposite is evil
Atheist-how do you know it's not the opposite or there good is plural
Theist-god is the source of good and the opposite is evil
I always find it funny they accuse us of having no foundation while ignoring there's is built of nothing
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RE: My honest reason for disliking the idea of God
November 26, 2016 at 5:25 am
Sure, put in an actual evil entity in place of God and it comes out as "good", because we have no subjective basis by which to judge it.
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RE: My honest reason for disliking the idea of God
November 26, 2016 at 11:32 am
(This post was last modified: November 26, 2016 at 11:33 am by purplepurpose.)
(November 26, 2016 at 5:25 am)robvalue Wrote: Sure, put in an actual evil entity in place of God and it comes out as "good", because we have no subjective basis by which to judge it. I think, so many people try to embrace God, even if he is described as a personification of brutality in world religions, because atheism offers eternal dream without dreams idea. And if someone asks "Why do you doubt atheism?" Because there is agnosticism.
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