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Evolution in Action
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RE: Evolution in Action
(September 3, 2010 at 11:40 am)Minimalist Wrote: More reality to throw in the faces of creationist morons.
And here is a rebuttal to throw in the face of evolutionists.

Quote:But giving birth to live young is quite different for skinks than for mammals. Skinks simply retain the eggs (that is, the shelled embryos) inside their bodies, while most mammals develop with a placenta rather than a shell. But keeping the eggs inside causes the shells to thin, so mother skinks counteract by secreting calcium into the embryos. This, according to Stewart, is “basically the early stages of the evolution of a placenta in reptiles.” He added, “We tend to think of this as a very complex transition, but it’s looking like it might be much simpler in some cases than we thought.”

So is the skink really “moving” from eggs to live birth, as the National Geographic News headline states? On the contrary, it appears that God designed some creatures with the amazing capability to switch birth methods to protect them from environmental dangers; meanwhile, Stewart’s team has observed no sign that skinks (or other creatures) have acquired or are acquiring any abilities they once lacked.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...e-09042010

In order to show that this is evolution it would be necessary to prove that there was a time in the past when no skinks had the ability to produce live births.

Quote:God is tweaking his creation because he didn't get it right the first time.

Oh wait....THEY can't say that, can they?
God got the creation right but it has been severely damaged as a result of sin. The time is coming when this world will be destroyed to be replace by a better one, but perhaps God has to do a little tweaking to keep this one functioning until then.

His invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
Romans 1:20 ESV

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#12
RE: Evolution in Action
(September 13, 2010 at 2:38 pm)theophilus Wrote:
(September 3, 2010 at 11:40 am)Minimalist Wrote: More reality to throw in the faces of creationist morons.
And here is a rebuttal to throw in the face of evolutionists.

Okay, give it your best shot!

Quote:But giving birth to live young is quite different for skinks than for mammals. Skinks simply retain the eggs (that is, the shelled embryos) inside their bodies, while most mammals develop with a placenta rather than a shell. But keeping the eggs inside causes the shells to thin, so mother skinks counteract by secreting calcium into the embryos. This, according to Stewart, is “basically the early stages of the evolution of a placenta in reptiles.” He added, “We tend to think of this as a very complex transition, but it’s looking like it might be much simpler in some cases than we thought.”

So is the skink really “moving” from eggs to live birth, as the National Geographic News headline states? On the contrary, it appears that God designed some creatures with the amazing capability to switch birth methods to protect them from environmental dangers; meanwhile, Stewart’s team has observed no sign that skinks (or other creatures) have acquired or are acquiring any abilities they once lacked.

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles...e-09042010

Oh, yes! Answersingenesis! Now THERE'S a reputable, unbiased source!

ROFLOL

Aren't these the same imbeciles who wasted $20 million constructing a "museum" that teaches idiocy like man and dinosaurs happily coexisted?

Quote:In order to show that this is evolution it would be necessary to prove that there was a time in the past when no skinks had the ability to produce live births.

It always cracks me up when believers (who believe the most far fetched bullshit with NO proof whatsoever) demand "proof" from scientists. And, of course, even when you provide evidence they're not convinced becuase the scientific conclusion contradicts their holy book. By the way, it is almost impossible to prove a negative. Science can't prove that at some point in the past no skinks had the ability to produce live births. Science also can't prove that some distant relative of yours didn't hatch from an egg.

Quote:God got the creation right but it has been severely damaged as a result of sin.

Oh, please! This is just stupid. If this is true, what was the point in your deity killing everyone in a flood and starting over?

Quote:The time is coming when this world will be destroyed to be replace by a better one, but perhaps God has to do a little tweaking to keep this one functioning until then.

You are correct about this world being destroyed. In a few billion years the sun will become a red giant and expand tremendously. This will kill everything on the planet. And I'm sure at that time people will still be waiting for Jesus to make an appearance.
Science flies us to the moon and stars. Religion flies us into buildings.

God allowed 200,000 people to die in an earthquake. So what makes you think he cares about YOUR problems?
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#13
RE: Evolution in Action
(September 13, 2010 at 2:38 pm)theophilus Wrote: In order to show that this is evolution it would be necessary to prove that there was a time in the past when no skinks had the ability to produce live births.
That's not how evolution actually works.
The fact of the matter is that this particular species of skinks were laying eggs before but in recent generations have started giving live births or at least is becoming more frequent.

(September 13, 2010 at 2:38 pm)theophilus Wrote: God got the creation right but it has been severely damaged as a result of sin. The time is coming when this world will be destroyed to be replace by a better one, but perhaps God has to do a little tweaking to keep this one functioning until then.
You're absolutely right. Soon, this world will one be replaced by a better one. A world of reason and fact and not of blind faith.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925

Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
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