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Why should my hard earned money go to those less fortunate?
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RE: Why should my hard earned money go to those less fortunate?
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#22
RE: Why should my hard earned money go to those less fortunate?
Ideally, help for the needy would come strictly from charity rather than the government. Unfortunately, it isnt enough bc many ppl dont give. But if you want to change this personally for yourself, you can factor in whatever you give to charity when doing your taxes, and you won't have to pay as much to the government.
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RE: Why should my hard earned money go to those less fortunate?
(December 10, 2016 at 2:35 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ideally, help for the needy would come strictly from charity rather than the government. Unfortunately, it isnt enough bc many ppl dont give. But if you want to change this personally for yourself, you can factor in whatever you give to charity when doing your taxes, and you won't have to pay as much to the government.

You might be surprised how the # of those needing will adjust itself automatically to the amount of aid available.

It's always been so, and it always will be.
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#24
RE: Why should my hard earned money go to those less fortunate?
I don't mind giving a helping hand to those in need. Of course the system will be, and is, abused by some. But I don't see how that justifies throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

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RE: Why should my hard earned money go to those less fortunate?
Lol good thing you're a mod, vorlie. Otherwise you wouldn't be able to answer your own posts via meme. Tongue
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#26
RE: Why should my hard earned money go to those less fortunate?
Why should my hard earned money go to those less fortunate?

Because it's a hell of a long way down; and I'd be very wary of who I tread on to get to where I am, just in case I need their help some day.

There are roads I will never walk down. Should my money only go to fund lighting on those that I do?
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RE: Why should my hard earned money go to those less fortunate?
I find it a tad hypocritical to complain about the government spending your money on welfare... then complaining about people on welfare spending their own money however they like. Just because they have some money, doesn't mean they don't need help to buy things like groceries. Food Stamps and benefits help them buy the things they need--then they're free to do with their own money what they like. (No matter how much it irks conservatives)

We live in a thing called 'society', and our society works as well as it does because we have things like public schools and safety nets for the less fortunate. Those are just two of many pieces of a very complex machine we call American Society. And taking away one cog, changes how the whole thing works. We pay a price for living in society--and that price is in the form of taxes. They're not fully voluntary--so the price is (understandably) based on our income.

What we all do with our own money--that is money after taxes--that's up to us. What taxes are spent on by our government is also partially up to us, but we don't get to decide what portion goes to what. And it's probably a good thing--because then you'd have some seriously underfunded projects that could totally destroy how our society works.
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RE: Why should my hard earned money go to those less fortunate?
1) How much of your hard earned money is being taxed and going to people who are less fortunate?

On your intro you say you're a student and you used to work in a grocery store.  It's just that when I was a student I only worked part time and wasn't taxed anything because I wasn't earning enough to be taxed.

2)  The people you're describing don't sound like they're less fortunate, it sounds like they've chosen to be lazy and to rely on government pay outs.

3)  I've also known people who are perfectly capable of working and some people who have considered faking mental illness to get more money.  It is disturbing.

4)  Forced redistribution of money in the form of welfare is problematic for obvious reasons.  I think the theory behind it is that we live in such a huge society that it's caused people to be encapable of empathy to everyone else within that society.  Plus the governments sometimes extend their role of governing the people of that one country they're and giving money away for free to other countries for some reason.


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#29
RE: Why should my hard earned money go to those less fortunate?
OP: Must be nice to be fat, warm, and safe.
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RE: Why should my hard earned money go to those less fortunate?
(December 10, 2016 at 2:29 pm)Whateverist Wrote:
(December 10, 2016 at 2:10 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Personally, when faced with a choice between seeing children and the disadvantaged starve and allowing a few that abuse the system do so, I choose the former - and it's not even close.  Your mileage - and empathy - may vary.


Wait, really?  I think this may not have come out right.  Did you mean:

"..when faced with a choice between seeing children and the disadvantaged starve and allowing a few that abuse the system do so, I choose the latter.."

?

Yep, derp. I'm an idiot.
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