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Spoiled Rotten
RE: Spoiled Rotten
I just praised my daughter for throwing her dinner plate at the wall somewhat more slowly than before. Was that wrong?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

RE: Spoiled Rotten
(23rd December 2016, 04:37)Alex K Wrote: I just praised my daughter for throwing her dinner plate at the wall somewhat more slowly than before. Was that wrong?

No. Progress should always be recognized and appreciated. Baby steps.

'There are people who long for immortality in the afterlife who don't know what to do with themselves on a rainy Sunday afternoon.' - Isaac Asimov
RE: Spoiled Rotten
(23rd December 2016, 04:37)Alex K Wrote: I just praised my daughter for throwing her dinner plate at the wall somewhat more slowly than before. Was that wrong?

Absolutely.  She'll never become a star athlete if you don't let her develop her skills properly, you cad.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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RE: Spoiled Rotten
(22nd December 2016, 20:44)Loading Please Wait Wrote: Should parents praise their children and comfort them as a best friend or should parents criticize and give their children tough love to teach them life lessons?

False dichotomy.
(13th January 2018, 23:37)vulcanlogician Wrote: We wouldn't have made it out of the dark ages unless people questioned conventional ways of thinking. Philosophy serves a purpose. Someone ignorant of agriculture might deduce that "bread comes from the supermarket" in the same way another person might deduce that our notions of justice and ethics come from "common sense."
RE: Spoiled Rotten
(23rd December 2016, 03:22)bennyboy Wrote:
(23rd December 2016, 00:10)Tres Leches Wrote: Meh. Every older generation shakes their fists at the younger generation and calls them "spoiled and lazy".

What I particularly don't care for is smug, blanket generalizations on parents today and how they all supposedly spoil their kids.

My child certainly has it better than I did when I was a kid but that's because we didn't have food in the fridge when I was a kid and my parents were neglectful. Nor do I hit my child, like I was.

I'm not generally in favor of sticking one's nose in other family's parenting techniques but if you're going to do that, beware of blanket generalizations.

That's what millennial hipsters ALWAYS say!

lol, I see what you did there. 

Maybe I'm not really a Gen Xer. Wink
There is in the universe only one true divide, one real binary, life and death. Either you are living or you are not. Everything else is molten, malleable.  -Susan Faludi, "In the Darkroom"
RE: Spoiled Rotten
My son got respect and appreciation for a job well-done, and critique when he goofed. Punishments did indeed happen, and he had his assigned chores. So far it seems to have worked.
RE: Spoiled Rotten
I have a daughter, now in her 30s. The other chromosome donor, hereafter referred to as "Whatsisname," was a tough-love proponent and helicopter parent. I, on the other hand, favour leading by example, reasoning through things, and using non-physical discipline as a last resort and never physical discipline.

She rejected everything Whatisname tried to force her to do. When we divorced, daughter came to live with me. I provided required resources, let her get on with shaping her own life, and kept on being my usual self. 16 years after the split, daughter is happily self-employed and far more spartan that spoiled.
RE: Spoiled Rotten
some kids even find elements of their upbringing they found lacking in later life

Friend of mine has a nephew, HORRIBLE child, expelled from more than 1 school, destructive, rages, still having laying on the ground kicking and screaming tantrums at age 12 (!), when he turned 18, joined the military and they shaped him up into a still deeply flawed, but functional adult.

I'll admit, when he signed up, I was mortified, I couldn't imagine him submitting to any discipline at all as he had never experienced any in his entire life up to that point. Turned out he LIKED it.

Whodda thought ?
In the 1960s, American parents began looking to mental health professionals for child-rearing advice.  Since then, an exponential per-capita increase in child mental health professionals has matched a dramatic deterioration in child mental health.  No new therapy or drug has stopped this downward trend.

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