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RE: Dear Theists....Why?
September 11, 2010 at 7:23 am
OK. Something new to debate about on this forum. Anyone care to explain how the story of Noah's Ark could have been possible?
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RE: Dear Theists....Why?
September 11, 2010 at 8:10 am
(September 11, 2010 at 7:23 am)HeyItsZeus Wrote: OK. Something new to debate about on this forum. Anyone care to explain how the story of Noah's Ark could have been possible?
If it wasn't possible then how could all of the animals be saved from that flood? Just think about it.
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RE: Dear Theists....Why?
September 11, 2010 at 8:15 am
Quote:OK. Something new to debate about on this forum. Anyone care to explain how the story of Noah's Ark could have been possible?
Its possible, but it didnt happen  .
Quote:If it wasn't possible then how could all of the animals be saved from that flood? Just think about it.
Whats your point?
BTW, I am anti-fundamentalist, just to let you know. But welcome to the forum anyways  .
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RE: Dear Theists....Why?
September 11, 2010 at 8:20 am
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(September 11, 2010 at 8:15 am)solja247 Wrote: Quote:OK. Something new to debate about on this forum. Anyone care to explain how the story of Noah's Ark could have been possible?
Its possible, but it didnt happen .
Quote:If it wasn't possible then how could all of the animals be saved from that flood? Just think about it.
Whats your point?
BTW, I am anti-fundamentalist, just to let you know. But welcome to the forum anyways .
Actually no, it wasn't possible and how can you call yourself a Christian if you don't believe it happened? Does anyone else think this is weird?
Oh and doodlebag... sigh .... whatever, never mind
A man of that time could not have went around the world, got 2 of every animal, put them on a boat, saved them from a world wide flood that never happened. First of all he would not have been able to go around the world saving every animal. Secondly, We don't even know all of the different types of animals today, it's safe to assume they were more ignorant then us back then  And also The animals probably would not have gotten along together let alone let themselves be taken by a man. Not true, not possible, these are a few things for my argument.
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RE: Dear Theists....Why?
September 11, 2010 at 8:33 am
It didn't happen, Zeus. It's a story, not an actual record of history.
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RE: Dear Theists....Why?
September 11, 2010 at 8:39 am
Quote:Actually no, it wasn't possible and how can you call yourself a Christian if you don't believe it happened? Does anyone else think this is weird?
I believe it. I translate it differently. Genesis 1-11 is talking about why there is evil in the world and how it came to be. I dont see why I should take it literal, but believe the point it was trying to make.
Note: There may have been a flood in the Mesopotamia area, around that time...
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RE: Dear Theists....Why?
September 11, 2010 at 8:57 am
(September 11, 2010 at 8:15 am)solja247 Wrote: Its possible.
I really can't see how. You couldn't possibly go around the world collecting 2 of every animal. Some animals would rip you to shreds. Also take into consideration the amount of food you'd need to keep them alive. Oh and where the hell would you keep all the termites?
Also the other problem with having only 2 of everything, they would have to inbreed which causes serious genetic problems which would prove fatal to their offspring and makes it impossible for the species to survive.
So no, it's not possible. The size the ship would have to be and the distance you'd need to travel to capture animals including some very large and dangerous ones and the inbreeding problem with the serious risk of infection due to lack of room and hygene.
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RE: Dear Theists....Why?
September 11, 2010 at 9:00 am
(September 11, 2010 at 8:57 am)Ace Wrote: I really can't see how. You couldn't possibly go around the world collecting 2 of every animal. Some animals would rip you to shreds. Also take into consideration the amount of food you'd need to keep them alive.
And don't forget the shit.
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RE: Dear Theists....Why?
September 11, 2010 at 9:08 am
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(September 11, 2010 at 9:00 am)Entropist Wrote: (September 11, 2010 at 8:57 am)Ace Wrote: I really can't see how. You couldn't possibly go around the world collecting 2 of every animal. Some animals would rip you to shreds. Also take into consideration the amount of food you'd need to keep them alive.
And don't forget the shit.
That alone would increase the risk of infection. Can't see how one man can go about shovelling all that crap.
I forgot to mention that many many animals rely on certain climate conditions. So unless you know of a way to have snow on one part of the ship with very hot tempretures on the other, most of the animals would die of that. Even today we couldn't do it.
We couldn't compensate for the genetic defects in the later offspring so all our efforts would of been a waste anyway.
(September 11, 2010 at 8:10 am)DoodleBag Wrote: (September 11, 2010 at 7:23 am)HeyItsZeus Wrote: OK. Something new to debate about on this forum. Anyone care to explain how the story of Noah's Ark could have been possible?
If it wasn't possible then how could all of the animals be saved from that flood? Just think about it.
It's because there was no world wide flood. There may have been a flood but was no where near large enough to in-danger any species.
There you go, a perfectly reasonable explanation.
The flood was over exaggerated.
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RE: Dear Theists....Why?
September 11, 2010 at 10:33 am
I think SOl basically meant to suggest that it is possible when one considers the context it is being put into, i.e.- God is real, the Bible is literally true, etc. In that case, a world-wide flood isn't terribly unreasonable, but it still didn't happen regardless.
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