Marvel Cinematic Universe

[Astonished]

I'm not sure how to add to the conversation, but I like just about everything Marvel right now. The only parts I dislike are being pushed by other companies (like Fox and their X-Men movies). I'd prefer it if Disney just ran all of it.

Ooh, how about some controversy? DC sucks! (really, I can't stand most of their shows/movies)

Well, the way I look at it, this is DC's attempt to emulate them, using the Marvel movies in place of theirs:
1. The Incredible Hulk (in place of Man of Steel)
2. Captain America: Civil War (in place of Batman V Superman)
3. Guardians of the Galaxy (in place of Suicide Squad)
4. Captain Marvel (in place of Wonder Woman)
5. Avengers: Infinity War (in place of Justice League)

Now, can you imagine if Marvel did this sequence of films, how fast they would have crashed and burned? Yet DC isn't taking the time and care with each film to build up familiarity and rapport with their characters before slapping them together, so it's like throwing a stick of dynamite into a toy chest full of old action figures, you don't know who's who or what's happening, it's just big, shiny and loud.

Marvel took a lot of big gambles and took their time, and it paid off, and now they're practically set for life. And they were able to take relatively unknown properties and make huge successes out of them. DC hasn't done that successfully yet, though I'm not holding my breath, and their diminishing returns are making it unlikely they'll ever try.

[paulpablo]

I like the X men series a hell of a lot. 

The rest of the films are sometimes watchable.  

The problem with the avengers is they all have similar powers and are basically over powered and unstoppable.

The hulk, thor, Iron man and captain america and whoever else is in that team are basically all strong and fast.  They dress it up with different story lines, slightly different degrees of power and different reasons behind their powers but they're basically all just strong and fast.  

X men is much better because the powers are more imaginative, like telepathy, metal manipulation, speed, fire manipulation and so on.

[Astonished]

I like the X men series a hell of a lot. 

The rest of the films are sometimes watchable.  

The problem with the avengers is they all have similar powers and are basically over powered and unstoppable.

The hulk, thor, Iron man and captain america and whoever else is in that team are basically all strong and fast.  They dress it up with different story lines, slightly different degrees of power and different reasons behind their powers but they're basically all just strong and fast.  

X men is much better because the powers are more imaginative, like telepathy, metal manipulation, speed, fire manipulation and so on.

I'd say roughly 2/3 of the X-Men films are good. X3, The Wolverine and Apocalypse were pretty bad or sub-par. Not holding my breath for Logan to be any good from the look of things. I'm not sorry they're over at Fox, but I do wish they didn't have control over the rights to the Fantastic Four.

I think DC is the franchise that has more problems with overpowered and unstoppable heroes. Both Hulk and Thor have gone up against foes that whupped on them, in Thor's case the only thing that saved him was Loki's sneakiness when he was fighting that Kurse guy in The Dark World. Captain America got shot all to hell in The Winter Soldier and would have died if Bucky didn't fish him out of the water. Iron Man had to be saved by his girlfriend TWICE at the end of two of his three movies. I don't see the comparison with, say, Superman and Wonder Woman.

[paulpablo]

I like the X men series a hell of a lot. 

The rest of the films are sometimes watchable.  

The problem with the avengers is they all have similar powers and are basically over powered and unstoppable.

The hulk, thor, Iron man and captain america and whoever else is in that team are basically all strong and fast.  They dress it up with different story lines, slightly different degrees of power and different reasons behind their powers but they're basically all just strong and fast.  

X men is much better because the powers are more imaginative, like telepathy, metal manipulation, speed, fire manipulation and so on.

I'd say roughly 2/3 of the X-Men films are good. X3, The Wolverine and Apocalypse were pretty bad or sub-par. Not holding my breath for Logan to be any good from the look of things. I'm not sorry they're over at Fox, but I do wish they didn't have control over the rights to the Fantastic Four.

I think DC is the franchise that has more problems with overpowered and unstoppable heroes. Both Hulk and Thor have gone up against foes that whupped on them, in Thor's case the only thing that saved him was Loki's sneakiness when he was fighting that Kurse guy in The Dark World. Captain America got shot all to hell in The Winter Soldier and would have died if Bucky didn't fish him out of the water. Iron Man had to be saved by his girlfriend TWICE at the end of two of his three movies. I don't see the comparison with, say, Superman and Wonder Woman.

Yeh I agree with all that.  The problem with the wolverine films is that wolverine as a character is a cash cow and the film makers are milking those logan udders dry, I mean until dust comes out.

I thought apocalypse was good but didn't like the finality of the ending.

I do think superheroes became overpowered in general.

I'm sure I remember as a kid that hulk was just a guy who got something like gorilla strength, now he's invincible, can basically fly with his leg strength, he can pretty much over power anyone. 

Superman started out as a guy who could just jump high and was pretty strong then became this man who couldn't be destroyed.  

I think it would be good if a whole new kind of franchise came out with characters that were killed and died easy and there were no ultra ultra powerful characters.  Powerful but just not ridiculously powerful.

[Astonished]

I'd say roughly 2/3 of the X-Men films are good. X3, The Wolverine and Apocalypse were pretty bad or sub-par. Not holding my breath for Logan to be any good from the look of things. I'm not sorry they're over at Fox, but I do wish they didn't have control over the rights to the Fantastic Four.

I think DC is the franchise that has more problems with overpowered and unstoppable heroes. Both Hulk and Thor have gone up against foes that whupped on them, in Thor's case the only thing that saved him was Loki's sneakiness when he was fighting that Kurse guy in The Dark World. Captain America got shot all to hell in The Winter Soldier and would have died if Bucky didn't fish him out of the water. Iron Man had to be saved by his girlfriend TWICE at the end of two of his three movies. I don't see the comparison with, say, Superman and Wonder Woman.

Yeh I agree with all that.  The problem with the wolverine films is that wolverine as a character is a cash cow and the film makers are milking those logan udders dry, I mean until dust comes out.

I thought apocalypse was good but didn't like the finality of the ending.

I do think superheroes became overpowered in general.

I'm sure I remember as a kid that hulk was just a guy who got something like gorilla strength, now he's invincible, can basically fly with his leg strength, he can pretty much over power anyone. 

Superman started out as a guy who could just jump high and was pretty strong then became this man who couldn't be destroyed.  

I think it would be good if a whole new kind of franchise came out with characters that were killed and died easy and there were no ultra ultra powerful characters.  Powerful but just not ridiculously powerful.

I disagree but only because I've seen how good a job they can do with shows like Young Justice. Even characters with ridiculously powerful combinations of abilities can still be challenged and need to come together as a team to triumph, although not without sacrifice. But of course we're not likely going to see that in the feature films.

[ApeNotKillApe]

[Athene]

I was pretty disappointed in the film adaptation of The Dark Phoenix Saga; it was quite the letdown.
A most horrendous travesty, IMO.

Overall, though, I'm feeling the X-Men film franchise; especially First Class. And Days of Future Past.

Jessica Jones : Pretty good. 
Daredevil : Yep...That's a great series, right there.

My favorite Spider-Man scene: Spidey stops the train. 
Peter sure came through. Took everything he had, too.....poor thing!

[Cyberman]

My reaction is the same as with the comics. I enjoy individual ones, even series. But they're so tied up with each other, you can hardly turn a page without seeing a footnote directing you to some other issue of a completely different title, just to get the context of whatever's going on in this one. As far as I can see, the films are going the same incestuously-referential way.

[ErGingerbreadMandude]

I absolutely loved the old X men movies but lately they've been releasing absolutely horrific movies.

My favorite Spider-Man movie was spiderman 3. The amazing spiderman with everything that followed it was just dumb movies.

I really really liked the first fantastic four movie too. Each characters had really diverse powers which is really interesting rather than just being really strong and fast. Although the second fantastic four was just stupid.

And Avengers was really good too but most people liked the first part and thought the follow up parts were not as good as the first one but for me the first part was meh and the follow up parts were really good and much better.

I also absolutely loved the guardians of the galaxy. Really funny movie with lots of action and really fun storyline.

[downbeatplumb]

The trouble with all the superhero franchises is the requirement every two or three years to reboot them.

I don't care how good a Spider-Man film is if it is telling me how he was bitten and got started again I will scream.

The same with Hulk and batman.

Ironman needed an origins film but for lots of the others its just rehashing the same story I already know AGAIN.