Another Reason Christians are Dangerous

[Rhondazvous]

My friend says he doesn't believe in global warming because god is in control. My problem with that is that historically, god has a way of letting things happen unchecked. Then when people die it's always their own fault. God is never to blame.

It's true we live in a narrow sliver of time when the Earth's climate is conducive to mammal life. We are still doing everything in our power to hasten the end of that sliver. Since Christians have put themselves on the vanguard of the fight against this mammal life, it's hard for me to take them seriously when they call themselves pro life.

[The Industrial Atheist]

There has been so many quotes that I'm not going to make a mess by quoting everything that's been said.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_irradiance

Drich, I'm not sure if you're suggesting I faked an article by NASA with a .gov in the url or what.

[Fake Messiah]

Drich, I'm not sure if you're suggesting I faked an article by NASA with a .gov in the url or what.

Yeah I see you're new around here, but that person only believes in the Bible - you know that the world is flat, unicorns are real - the whole package; and that everything else (including modern science) is a hoax, so good luck reasoning with that person.

[Neo-Scholastic]

Let's see first it was the coming ice age, then the population bomb, and I think the experts also predicted we woul be out of oil by now. The hysterical voices of authority don't have a very good forecasting record. But the solution is always the same...give politicians more money.

[Godscreated]

Drich, I'm not sure if you're suggesting I faked an article by NASA with a .gov in the url or what.

Yeah I see you're new around here, but that person only believes in the Bible - you know that the world is flat, unicorns are real - the whole package; and that everything else (including modern science) is a hoax, so good luck reasoning with that person.

That from the most unreasonable of all!

GC

[robvalue]

Drich, I'm not sure if you're suggesting I faked an article by NASA with a .gov in the url or what.

Yeah I see you're new around here, but that person only believes in the Bible - you know that the world is flat, unicorns are real - the whole package; and that everything else (including modern science) is a hoax, so good luck reasoning with that person.

He, and some others around here, seem to view the whole of reality as a hoax.

[Silver]

He, and some others around here, seem to view the whole of reality as a hoax.

It all boils down to cognitive dissonance, my dear.

[Fake Messiah]

Let's see first it was the coming ice age, then the population bomb, and I think the experts also predicted we woul be out of oil by now.

Ice age? Population bomb? While there were scientists that predicted we would be out of oil by now, they were actually not so wrong and don't let that confuse you. Oil extraction changed dramatically over the last century and still does. At the beginning when people started using oil they just collected it on the surface of oil fields (which does not exist anymore). Nobody dreamed there would be extractions from such deep underground depths, from under oceans, let alone fracking or extracting it from oil sands or even drilling from underneath the arctic.

That from the most unreasonable of all!

What is unreasonable about me? That I don't believe you have personal relationship with dead carpenter that probably never existed? I asked you to reason that and you backed out - failed. Obviously you don't value reason.

[Pat Mustard]

You guys are all f-ing morons..

Do you know where or what the 'big fix is for global climate change?'

Carbon credits.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_credit

It is a tax Clinton was going to put in place to charge you bleeding heart dummies too dee da dee to know in order for one to claim climate change based on carbon emissions, one must account for 1000s years of solar output (how much heat/light the sun produces ) in relation to how much the planet absorbs. We MAYBE have 100 years of data. So with 100 year picture science claims the sky is falling.. and what do you dummies do? Blame God and Christianity when too many people wake up from the BS and want something real to replace the money grubbing science that puts hippies into a tizzy.

http://climate.nasa.gov/causes/

Solar irradiance
It's reasonable to assume that changes in the sun's energy output would cause the climate to change, since the sun is the fundamental source of energy that drives our climate system.
Indeed, studies show that solar variability has played a role in past climate changes. For example, a decrease in solar activity is thought to have triggered the Little Ice Age between approximately 1650 and 1850, when Greenland was largely cut off by ice from 1410 to the 1720s and glaciers advanced in the Alps.
But several lines of evidence show that current global warming cannot be explained by changes in energy from the sun:

• Since 1750, the average amount of energy coming from the sun either remained constant or increased slightly.
  

• If the warming were caused by a more active sun, then scientists would expect to see warmer temperatures in all layers of the atmosphere. Instead, they have observed a cooling in the upper atmosphere, and a warming at the surface and in the lower parts of the atmosphere. That's because greenhouse gases are trapping heat in the lower atmosphere.
  

Climate models that include solar irradiance changes can’t reproduce the observed temperature trend over the past century or more without including a rise in greenhouse gases
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Why must we havethousands of years of information of the suns energy output?

Because no amount of evidence is sufficient to make Dripshit changehis mind when he doesn't agree with something, while no evidence is needed to prove what he does believe in.

[Faith No More]

essentily 100 years is being way generous. 1950 is when we seriously started identified and started accurate recording the data points we now use. The fact that you think any different, and chose to speak without checking MAKES the moron I said you where.

http://history.aip.org/climate/solar.htm

The link above is a complete history of science surrounding climate change. While I do not support it's final conclusion as the article does not take into consideration the data points that would ultimately affect climate rendered by a "3d huluhoop effect the earth's orbit would have in conjunction with solar output, I believe the article does indeed correctly follow how climate change via green house gas verse solar sunspots cycles would have..

Again, I am saying solar out put in conjunction with orbit over century long cycles determines climate (As did the last 500 years of science) this article maps out sunspots effect out a particular type of solar output/cosmic rays. But the article does accurately describe how and when our knowledge of climate change data was and is gathered.

So 1950 sport that means with 67 years of data youre people claim the sky is falling, and because I am not in a panic makes me the less credible??!?! Again the Sky is falling junk started in the late 90's AND inorder for to believe this bunk you have to ignore over 500 years of solar science and observation, even several mini Iceages with in the last 3 or 400 years, all of which is completely contrary to what your sky is falling doctrine tells you...

You know what you douche bags had you go for the last 10 years or so. give it a rest and let the adults run the world again. Maybe next time you all can do something with aliens or 'alien credits.' Some special tax that will help those who pay it avoid being probed

Lol, yeah, it's not like we can't dig into the layers of ice in the Antarctic to test the composition of the atmosphere and temperature of the earth for the last several thousands of years.  If everyone stayed as stupid as you, we'd still have lead in our gasoline.

So, while we have only been studying the climate for decades now, we actually have data about the climate for thousands of years.  How do you think we know about all of those ice ages and stuff, ya fuckin' tool?

Sure, it's just a natural warming from sunspots and the orbit.  It all just coincidentally started when we started burning fossil fuels. Once again, the proven-to-be retarded, ignorant internet crusader knows more than 99% of the people with degrees in the field.

Tell me, what's it like to feel so superior when you're actually so goddamn stupid?  It's just really hard for me to imagine someone someone with your level of self-awareness.