Was Hitler objectively bad?

[theVOID]

Yeah lol sorry, didn't want the whole automp3 shit.

[Anomalocaris]

This is one of the largest problems with Atheism. Atheists can be 'good' people. But everything is permissible...

I have exactly the opposite opinion. Far from finding everything permissible, we Atheists have basic standards for acceptability that are far more rigorous than any a religionist would think about applying to his belief. For example we do not find it permissible to jettison our intellectual integrity to indulge in the absurd belief in some fantasy deity and promiscuously fool ourselves into hoping that it would reorder the universe for us and coddle the most needy part of our personality.

Given how obviously ridiculous the fundamental basis of religion is when seen in light of the body of knowledge humanity have laboriously gathered and systematized, and how contingent were the circumstances that mutated each religion into it's various present forms, to have chosen to believe in god in the 21st century is exactly the admission that one has been very permissive towards oneself and stands ready to accept anything so long as it seemed to fulfill some right combination inner, discreditable primitive needs.

And yes, Hitler was a calamity for mankind. Improving the welfare of Mankind is most atheists' highest goal, and so Hitler was bad.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Improving the welfare of Mankind is most atheists' highest goal,

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No, it's not actually, certainly not mine. I think mankind is a virus on the planet.

A person may have such goals AND be an atheist. However, 'as atheists' we have no goals whatsoever.This is probably because atheism is not a religion, an ideology,a philosophy,a moral code ,or a world view. Atheism is simply a disbelief in gods. NOTHING else is implied or may be inferred.

You may disagree and have your own agenda, and that's your right., However, please try to resist giving the impression you speak for anyone but yourself,there's a good chap.That's not a right you enjoy here.

[Anomalocaris]

Improving the welfare of Mankind is most atheists' highest goal,

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No, it's not actually, certainly not mine. I think mankind is a virus on the planet.

A person may have such goals AND be an atheist. However, 'as atheists' we have no goals whatsoever.This is probably because atheism is not a religion, an ideology,a philosophy,a moral code ,or a world view. Atheism is simply a disbelief in gods. NOTHING else is implied or may be inferred.

You may disagree and have your own agenda, and that's your right., However, please try to resist giving the impression you speak for anyone but yourself,there's a good chap.That's not a right you enjoy here.

Who privileged you with the right to speak for "we" while presuming to deny the same to me?

So consider my "Atheist" to be inclusive of you and my "most" to be exclusive of you.

[tackattack]

I believe his atheist "we" was determinant of the atheists represented at this forum (but perhaps inclusively elsewhere) that have reached a mutual understanding that atheism is only about a disbelief in god.

[Minimalist]

Improving the welfare of Mankind is most atheists' highest goal,

Screw that. I'd be happy to get a few of them to stop worshiping a non-existant god and even that seems like a daunting task.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

I believe his atheist "we" was determinant of the atheists represented at this forum (but perhaps inclusively elsewhere) that have reached a mutual understanding that atheism is only about a disbelief in god.

Thank you Tacky that was exactly what I meant. I thought I was clear enough. Obviously not. By "not a right you enjoy here" I meant "not a right ANYONE enjoys here."

@Chuck

The point I was trying to make is that there is no such thing as an atheist spokesman,nor is there an atheist cause. One does not presume to speak for others unless elected as spokesperson.

The definition of 'atheist' I used was from the Concise Oxford Dictionary and is also the meaning used by consensus on this and many other atheist forums.

As far as I'm aware,there is no evidence to indicate what 'most' atheists think about anything..

[leo-rcc]

He's responsible for the Volkswagen so he can't be bad.

[theVOID]

He's responsible for the Volkswagen so he can't be bad.

Well when you put it that way...

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

He's responsible for the Volkswagen so he can't be bad.

Well when you put it that way...

I drove a Volkswagen Beetle,once,in 1971.

You had to remember to open a window before closing the or the sudden change in air pressure made your nose bleed. It was also afraid of trucks. Every time a truck came towards me, I ended up facing the other way.