Have we failed as a species?

[Jehanne]

I have a phobia about low quality sperm

Would a World with just women be such a bad place?  Of course, they would have to clone themselves to survive!

[Aoi Magi]

We actually haven't failed as a species, because under the laws of nature and natural selection, failure would be extinction. As long as we survive, we have succeeded.

And not even a million years being homo sapiens sapiens is sufficient to come to that judgment? We have clocked off about 0.75 percent of the time dinosaurs roamed the land. I wouldn't call that a success yet looking at the big picture.

You missed the point, I said "As long as we survive" we have succeeded, so if a freak meteor destroys us tomorrow or we nuke ourselves to oblivion, we certainly would have failed but till before that point, we would still be a success story.

[ignoramus]

I think in the spirit of the thread, surviving does not equate to success.
We can do a lot better than just survive, but we're not ...Well at least not the majority in politically corrupt, unstable and other third world countries with lack of regular food...?

[Aoi Magi]

Maybe as a sentient intelligent society we have more values that are needed to be considered a success, but as a "species", as part of nature, survival is the only true requirement. Our accomplishments in terms of society, civilization, knowledge and so forth are just too insignificant in the grand scale of things, and especially are meaningless if we, as a species, don't survive.

[Anomalocaris]

And not even a million years being homo sapiens sapiens is sufficient to come to that judgment? We have clocked off about 0.75 percent of the time dinosaurs roamed the land. I wouldn't call that a success yet looking at the big picture.

You missed the point, I said "As long as we survive" we have succeeded, so if a freak meteor destroys us tomorrow or we nuke ourselves to oblivion, we certainly would have failed but till before that point, we would still be a success story.

That's like saying we are all geniuses until we score 3 on the IQ test.

[HairyCyclist]

You missed the point, I said "As long as we survive" we have succeeded, so if a freak meteor destroys us tomorrow or we nuke ourselves to oblivion, we certainly would have failed but till before that point, we would still be a success story.

That's like saying we are all geniuses until we score 3 on the IQ test.

Taking into account that we evolved I think we are a massive success story, It takes some doing to survive natural selection.

[Anomalocaris]

Massive success story is having evolved at all?  What constitutes in your mind a merely ordinary sized success story then?   Didn't quite evolve but looked good in the big book of might have beens?

[HairyCyclist]

Massive success story is having evolved at all?  What constitutes in your mind a merely ordinary sized success story then?   Didn't quite evolve but looked good in the big book of might have beens?

Lol

[Anomalocaris]

I have a phobia about low quality sperm

Would a World with just women be such a bad place?  Of course, they would have to clone themselves to survive!

What possible reason could there be for women to exist if there are no men to leer at them?



I will sidle off now.

[Aoi Magi]

You missed the point, I said "As long as we survive" we have succeeded, so if a freak meteor destroys us tomorrow or we nuke ourselves to oblivion, we certainly would have failed but till before that point, we would still be a success story.

That's like saying we are all geniuses until we score 3 on the IQ test.

First, The IQ test isn't actually a good measure of intelligence.
Secondly yes, genius would be a comparative degree of intelligence in the IQ test but even someone getting a low score doesn't mean they are not genius. A genius painter, or artist does not need the intelligence of a rocket scientist.
Third, you are still missing the point. Instead of putting humanity on a pedestal, look at it as just another species and then look at all other species, nature is constantly cleaning up the failed species and the survivors are doing their best to adapt so as to not get wiped out by natural selection next,