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Female wants to join Boy Scouts

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Female wants to join Boy Scouts
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Female wants to join Boy Scouts
March 10, 2017 at 3:19 am (This post was last modified: March 10, 2017 at 3:21 am by Richard Loeb.)




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RE: Female wants to join Boy Scouts
March 10, 2017 at 3:26 am
It doesn't bother me. I don't understand why "scouts" should be separated between boys and girls anyway. Obviously the group as it exists now will reject this, though.
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RE: Female wants to join Boy Scouts
March 10, 2017 at 3:27 am
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RE: Female wants to join Boy Scouts
March 10, 2017 at 3:38 am (This post was last modified: March 10, 2017 at 3:40 am by Richard Loeb.)
Good point. I think part of the reason boys and girls are separated is because parents wouldn't like their boys/girls camping together or spending too much time alone with the opposite sex @Jesster.
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RE: Female wants to join Boy Scouts
March 10, 2017 at 3:40 am
Nah. They are separate because of the times they were created in.
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RE: Female wants to join Boy Scouts
March 10, 2017 at 3:44 am
(March 10, 2017 at 3:27 am)ignoramus Wrote: Welcome...
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RE: Female wants to join Boy Scouts
March 10, 2017 at 4:37 am (This post was last modified: March 10, 2017 at 4:40 am by Aroura.)
(March 10, 2017 at 3:40 am)Jesster Wrote: Nah. They are separate because of the times they were created in.

This.

As an ex girl scout leader, the reasons are all very archaic.  Boy scouts was for boys (started in England, spread to America and other countries), girl scouts came later and Juliette Lowe, the creator, 100% started girl scouts to show that girls could be scouts, or anything they wanted to be, too.  

There are many mixed scout organizations that function fine with boys and girls camping together.  In many European countries, they have integrated their scouting organizations under WAGGS, and they survived just fine.

On the one hand, it was kind of cool to have a girls only club.  On the other, I feel it's outdated and unfair. Boys can enjoy a good craft, girls can enjoy a good hike. It's good for them to be around each other!

However, here in the US, they will NEVER join (these 2 specific organizations) because they are not 2 branches of the same organization.  Boy scouts is owned and run by religious groups. Girl scouts is, in theory, entirely secular.  I did fine for my 3 years as an atheist leader in a religious community.  No other leaders or council members, mothers or anyone bothered me about it.  I felt respected for doing good with my troop.  They were fine that I omitted Under God when I said the pledge.  They encouraged us to teach the girls that they could say alternate things there, or just be silent, if they wished.

It's still questionable if Boy scouts will even allow atheists to join, let alone be Scout Leaders.

Thoughts on the OP. She should absolutely be allowed to join, but Boy Scouts has some very hard line rules about members.  It will be a fight for her.  If she's willing to go through that for what she wants, then good for her!

Girl Scouts openly accepts trans kids, boy scouts does not.  I suspect they will fight a cis girl joining tooth and nail.
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RE: Female wants to join Boy Scouts
March 10, 2017 at 5:31 am
I can't watch the video at the moment but why does she want to join the Boy Scouts as opposed to the Girl Scouts?


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RE: Female wants to join Boy Scouts
March 10, 2017 at 5:42 am
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RE: Female wants to join Boy Scouts
March 10, 2017 at 6:00 am
I have no problem with this, as long as I can join the women's gym down the road here.
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