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RE: Operating systems Wars!
March 12, 2017 at 5:27 pm
Why oh why does it take so long to kill an application in Windows? You have to wait for ages, and then go through loads of confirmations, as if you had accidentally told selected an application in the task manager and asked to kill it. And then,Windows stars searching for a solution to the problem. Has it ever, in the history of Windows ever found a solution? I was once curious about it and let it continue searching for a solution while I went and made some tea. As expected, no solution found.
In Linux, type 'top' (equivalent to task manager)
Look at the process id
Type the letter K
Type the process id
Hit enter
Process dies. Quickly.
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RE: Operating systems Wars!
March 12, 2017 at 5:31 pm
(March 11, 2017 at 8:09 am)Gawdzilla Sama Wrote: The best operating system is the one that works for the individual user. For most people that's the one that they can deal with.
True enough. I have a Mac OS and really like it, but have had some success with Windows, especially when I had thought Apple was in trouble in general.
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RE: Operating systems Wars!
March 12, 2017 at 5:48 pm
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(March 12, 2017 at 5:27 pm)Mathilda Wrote: Why oh why does it take so long to kill an application in Windows? You have to wait for ages, and then go through loads of confirmations, as if you had accidentally told selected an application in the task manager and asked to kill it. And then,Windows stars searching for a solution to the problem. Has it ever, in the history of Windows ever found a solution? I was once curious about it and let it continue searching for a solution while I went and made some tea. As expected, no solution found.
In Linux, type 'top' (equivalent to task manager)
Look at the process id
Type the letter K
Type the process id
Hit enter
Process dies. Quickly.
top?
pfft... how inefficient?
> ps xua|grep [program name]
> kill -9 [pid]
Btw, look into a cool top-enhanced called htop.
(March 12, 2017 at 6:02 am)pocaracas Wrote: (March 12, 2017 at 4:38 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote: Try MobaXterm. The free version is pretty limited in the number of profiles it will save but if you're willing to use a Unix-like shell, it has an internal terminal session which blows away Putty.
I use it at work to access dozens of systems via ssh, stop/scp, tunneling, xterm, etc etc etc.
Oh...it has an X server built in...
I used XMing for that... Before my recent bout with Asus warranty where, to replace a faulty screen, they decided to turn my hard drive into a OOBE (Out Of Box Experience...aka all programs and files gone and back to an all new Windows).
I'm so going to try that moba. Thanks for the tip!
My raspbian doesn't like the X-server on this thing... 
Oh well.... at least it does the tunnel I want automatically at startup...
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RE: Operating systems Wars!
March 12, 2017 at 7:07 pm
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(March 12, 2017 at 5:48 pm)pocaracas Wrote: top?
pfft... how inefficient?
> ps xua|grep [program name]
> kill -9 [pid]
Thanks for that. Always new things to learn ...
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RE: Operating systems Wars!
March 12, 2017 at 7:32 pm
Windows I guess. Even though Windows 10 fucked my laptop up
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RE: Operating systems Wars!
March 12, 2017 at 7:41 pm
I find that Windows is fine in the most part {don't mention Vista) if it has good strong hardware behind it.
My win10 beast boots up quicker than my my Linux word clock using the nice but not very powerful rasp pi.
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RE: Operating systems Wars!
March 12, 2017 at 7:53 pm
(March 12, 2017 at 7:41 pm)ignoramus Wrote: I find that Windows is fine in the most part {don't mention Vista) if it has good strong hardware behind it.
My win10 beast boots up quicker than my my Linux word clock using the nice but not very powerful rasp pi.
Funny how some versions of Windows are despised...
After Win 98SE, came Win ME... Win ME got a very bad rap... but, on my computer, where 98SE was giving me random explorer.exe shutdowns, Millennium worked like a charm...
Then, later, I had a computer with XP. A year or two after it came out, I decided to give Vista a try... It worked. Couldn't complain. Then came win7... seemed like just a minor cosmetic improvement over Vista... worked just as well.
I skipped win8 and 8.1, though... that ghastly Metro start menu seemed so strange... and limiting...
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RE: Operating systems Wars!
March 12, 2017 at 9:15 pm
(March 12, 2017 at 7:41 pm)ignoramus Wrote: I find that Windows is fine in the most part {don't mention Vista) if it has good strong hardware behind it.
My win10 beast boots up quicker than my my Linux word clock using the nice but not very powerful rasp pi.
I also get quick boot results from both my Windows 10 devices, my surface with an Intel Atom boots in about 14 to 19 seconds and my main laptop running an I7 boots in 9 to 12 seconds. I'm not a 100% sure on the Mac boot times, from I heard they tend to take longer to boot. I would like to get rasp pi system, but the my money is going to be tied up in building my dual processor gaming computer.
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RE: Operating systems Wars!
March 12, 2017 at 9:42 pm
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I just got my evga gtx1080 and the phanteks glacier water cooling block! The block itself is a work of art, check it out.
I'll need to take the wall PC offline for about 2 weeks as I need to reroute the cooling... So I'll be watching movies or playing solitaire on the wife's PC until then. (She gets my hand me downs like a good wife! Lol!)
What's crazy is I saved 200 bucks by buying the card direct from the States rather than local! Even with the 60 dollar ups delivery fee added?
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RE: Operating systems Wars!
March 12, 2017 at 9:43 pm
Boot speed is worthless - what matters is Sleep/Resume speed and OS memory defragmentation.
In the ideal case, one should never need to reboot. Even kernel patches can be made live, although Oracle owns the patents on one known method (they're probably others). When you stop and think about it, excepting the kernel, nothing else should require a reboot.
Only restarting the service and its dependents.
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