Argument from justice.

[Mystic]

You should read what philosophers have said about this subject. From Kant to others, it's been proven beyond doubt morality, justice, etc, prove God and God proves them, and this is a biconditional statement, if one is false, the other is false, and if one is true, the other is true.

There is a lot of literature on this.  I am just bringing different angles and perceptions of my own that have a similar flavor.\

Don't start with the argument from authority again. You said you understood this, so you explain it yourself.

The reality is we didn't come to believe in morality due to God nor God due to morality, but we believed in these things together, and they go together, no matter how much people try to separate the two.

The same is true of mysterious language of love and worth.

And now we're back to bald assertions again. Thanks for wasting my time.

All I'm suggesting is you read literature into these things.

You may find even ancient philosophers like Plato proved the divine a long long time ago.

[Jesster]

Do you believe love is a human construct?

Love is the effect of chemical reactions. I'm sorry to take the romance out of it for you.

[Amarok]

Love is a combination of chemicals and experience

The rainbow has no magic I'm afraid it's just light

[Jesster]

All I'm suggesting is you read literature into these things.

You may find even ancient philosophers like Plato proved the divine a long long time ago.

So you can't explain any of this then? Why are you wasting money on school?

I've read into plenty of philosophy by the way. That doesn't matter here, though. Either you can make an argument or you can't. So far you can't.

[Mystic]

Do you believe love is a human construct?

Love is the effect of chemical reactions. I'm sorry to take the romance out of it for you.

It's that you cannot take the romance out of it from me, that I know it's not simply the effect of chemical reactions.

But now, we moved to something else, is the creation of these chemical reactions a human construct or not?

If not, then the subject experience of love, is shown to be not to be solely human constructs which show your assertion to be false.

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Love is a combination of chemicals and experience

The rainbow has no magic I'm afraid it's just light

But is this all our construct chemicals, etc, if not, then the assertion that all subjective experience is only human constructs are false.

[Jesster]

It's that you cannot take the romance out of it from me, that I know it's not simply the effect of chemical reactions.

I don't care what you claim to know.

But now, we moved to something else, is the creation of these chemical reactions a human construct or not?

If not, then the subject experience of love, is shown to be not to be solely human constructs which show your assertion to be false.

Chemical reactions are not subjective or human constructs. I'm not sure how you connected this to my earlier argument. It has nothing to do with what I was saying.

[Mystic]

It's that you cannot take the romance out of it from me, that I know it's not simply the effect of chemical reactions.

I don't care what you claim to know.

But now, we moved to something else, is the creation of these chemical reactions a human construct or not?

If not, then the subject experience of love, is shown to be not to be solely human constructs which show your assertion to be false.

Chemical reactions are not subjective or human constructs. I'm not sure how you connected this to my earlier argument. It has nothing to do with what I was saying.

Love is subjective or objective?

[paulpablo]

1. Justice either has a basis or it doesn't.
2. If it has a basis, then justice itself is the basis of all instances and application.
3. If doesn't have a basis, it's arbitrary.
4. If it's arbitrary it's contradictory and delusional.
5.If it has a basis, it must have a real existence and not be a mere relative conceptual framework that we sort of agree upon.
6. There exists a non-arbitrary justice potential.
8. Therefore a basis of justice exists.
9. Therefore justice exists.
10. Therefore justice has a real existence.
11. We haven't seen justice in this world as of yet, which means it's basis must be eternal.
12. If justice exists, then humanity will eventually experience justice.
13. Therefore humanity will eventually experience justice.
14. Justice by definition gives everything it's due.
15. The only being that can give everything it's due, is the perfect judge and the one who sees things as they are.
16. If justice, exist, then the perfect judge exists.
17. Therefore, the perfect judge exists.

1...2....3....let's see everyone deny justice.............

Justice is a word humans invented to describe fair treatment and so on.

It's subjective but not completely random, people try and decide what's fair and debate about it and argue about it.

I don't know if we have seen justice in this world yet, I'm not a perfect judge of what justice is, I'm just another human being like everyone else who has an opinion on what being treated fairly is, other people will disagree with my opinion.

I don't know if all humans will experience justice at some point.

You can't look up a word in a dictionary and based on it's meaning say that everyone is going to experience some sort of action in the future, it's just a word used to vaguely describe something, it doesn't mean that a perfect version of it exists and therefore god exists because only he can do this thing perfectly.

At some point in time someone came up with the word "good" this doesn't mean therefore something perfectly, objectively definitively, good exists eternally out there. 
It's just a word people use to describe their subjective experience and a lot of the time it can be agreed upon and a lot of the time it can't.
It's a human word and subject to human experience.

[Jesster]

Love is subjective or objective?

I clarified this already. Do you have short-term memory problems?

Love is the effect of a chemical reaction. Chemical reactions are objective processes.

Does this have a point?

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[Amarok]

Love is subjective or objective?

I clarified this already. Do you have short-term memory problems?

Love is the effect of a chemical reaction. Chemical reactions are objective processes.

Does this have a point?

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Yup agreed