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RE: This Fellow Rips Lee Stroebel A New Asshole
April 16, 2017 at 10:34 pm
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(April 8, 2017 at 11:06 am)Minimalist Wrote: And rightly so, he's just another jesus freak shithead who only hears what he wants to hear.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/the-case...urrection/
Quote:The Case for Christ: What’s the evidence for the resurrection?
Quote:Yet the two biblical scholars who feature in the movie, Gary Habermas and William Lane Craig, both teach at institutions (Liberty University and Biola University, respectively) that require their faculty to sign statements affirming that they believe the Bible is inspired by God and is free of any contradictions, historical inaccuracies or moral failings. For example, the Liberty University faculty application requires assent to the following statement:
The overwhelming majority of professional biblical scholars teaching in the United States and elsewhere are not required to sign such statements of faith. Many of the other scholars he interviews in his book have similar affiliations. Strobel has thus drawn from a quite narrow range of scholars that are not representative of the field as a whole. (I estimate there are somewhere around 10,000 professional biblical scholars globally.)
Nonetheless, one can bet that the morons will be jerking off to this absurd movie. Let's call it "Jesus Porn."
Well.... your boy argues the Romans didn't put victims in tombs right away, and "probably" left Jesus hanging for a day or so. Jews bury their dead before sundown. And with the Sabbath looming, it would be more important to bury Him pronto. Romans respected Jewish religious rights to keep them civil and obedient. So, there's a blaring mistake for Landau's argument. Which he should've been well aware of! Plus, he doesn't state where he gets his info about delayed burials.
Seems pretty dumb to argue a minute point when Landau thinks Strobel has no argument at all. Maybe to fill space between his ears?
The devils....eh, truth is in the details. IF a subject is to be torn down, it needs to be done from within the argument. 5000 manuscripts were written because a LOT of people believed the scripture was truth.
The biggest argument for Jesus, IMO, is the Eucharist. Jesus lost half, or more of His following with the words: “Unless you eat my body and drink my blood, there is no life in you.” That is the single most important "Case for Christ" in my book!
That was counter-cultural, and "unclean" to everything about the Jewish traditions of the day! There is no way a "made-up" Messiah would be saying that stuff. NONE! That wouldn't get you far then.... and obviously still not very popular these days either. Only to those "with understanding".
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RE: This Fellow Rips Lee Stroebel A New Asshole
April 16, 2017 at 11:28 pm
Quote: Well.... your boy argues the Romans didn't put victims in tombs right away, and "probably" left Jesus hanging for a day or so
Yeah, Ronny. I had you in mind when I spoke of morons jerking off to Stroebel's bullshit.
The Romans did not bury crucified criminals. The whole fucking point was to leave them hanging there until they rotted off as a warning to others. The warning was quite simple.
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RE: This Fellow Rips Lee Stroebel A New Asshole
April 16, 2017 at 11:35 pm
Why wouldn't a made up messiah say crazy shit, again? Wouldn't get the faith very far? Seems like it worked. Still not popular...the hell you say, there's alot of you christians laying around...lol?
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RE: This Fellow Rips Lee Stroebel A New Asshole
April 16, 2017 at 11:50 pm
Yeah my brother was all excited about this snuff.
Ronneeee!!!! *waves
How do you know Jesus lost half his flock over the Eucharist?
I mean it makes sense with how observant Jews are about NOT eating things.. honestly if they can't eat shellfish I do find it difficult for them to subscribe to spiritual cannibalism.
Anyways do you have reference for Jews denying Christ because of this observance?
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RE: This Fellow Rips Lee Stroebel A New Asshole
April 17, 2017 at 12:18 am
yup, the zombies gather for the feast! A real "brainy" bunch.... I forget to dumb things down for y'all. I get better conceptual conversation out of my 5 y/o (clicking dust off my heels...again)
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RE: This Fellow Rips Lee Stroebel A New Asshole
April 17, 2017 at 12:38 am
(April 17, 2017 at 12:18 am)ronedee Wrote: yup, the zombies gather for the feast! A real "brainy" bunch.... I forget to dumb things down for y'all. I get better conceptual conversation out of my 5 y/o (clicking dust off my heels...again)
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So.. Did I actually offend you there or do you just not want to do your homework on your own beliefs and find out if they're based on any thing tangible?
Dont tell me that after all these years your fuse has gotten even shoRter? 
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: This Fellow Rips Lee Stroebel A New Asshole
April 17, 2017 at 4:36 am
(April 16, 2017 at 10:34 pm)ronedee Wrote: (April 8, 2017 at 11:06 am)Minimalist Wrote: And rightly so, he's just another jesus freak shithead who only hears what he wants to hear.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/the-case...urrection/
Nonetheless, one can bet that the morons will be jerking off to this absurd movie. Let's call it "Jesus Porn." (April 16, 2017 at 10:34 pm)ronedee Wrote: Well.... your boy argues the Romans didn't put victims in tombs right away, and "probably" left Jesus hanging for a day or so. Jews bury their dead before sundown. And with the Sabbath looming, it would be more important to bury Him pronto. Romans respected Jewish religious rights to keep them civil and obedient. So, there's a blaring mistake for Landau's argument. Which he should've been well aware of! Plus, he doesn't state where he gets his info about delayed burials.
Quote:Crucifixion was often performed in order to terrorize and dissuade its witnesses from perpetrating particularly heinous crimes. Victims were left on display after death as warnings to others who might attempt dissent. Crucifixion was usually intended to provide a death that was particularly slow, painful (hence the term excruciating, literally "out of crucifying"), gruesome, humiliating, and public, using whatever means were most expedient for that goal. Crucifixion methods varied considerably with location and time period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion
The point of killing people that way was to show the populace what happened to criminals.
(April 16, 2017 at 10:34 pm)ronedee Wrote: Seems pretty dumb to argue a minute point when Landau thinks Strobel has no argument at all. Maybe to fill space between his ears?
The devils....eh, truth is in the details. IF a subject is to be torn down, it needs to be done from within the argument. 5000 manuscripts were written because a LOT of people believed the scripture was truth.
The biggest argument for Jesus, IMO, is the Eucharist. Jesus lost half, or more of His following with the words: “Unless you eat my body and drink my blood, there is no life in you.” That is the single most important "Case for Christ" in my book!
That was counter-cultural, and "unclean" to everything about the Jewish traditions of the day! There is no way a "made-up" Messiah would be saying that stuff. NONE! That wouldn't get you far then.... and obviously still not very popular these days either. Only to those "with understanding".
I don't get your reasoning. To me it just looks like something someone is supposed to have said.
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RE: This Fellow Rips Lee Stroebel A New Asshole
April 17, 2017 at 5:06 am
OMG the idea that some Jews might have rebelled against the orthodoxy of the time and put there ideas in the mouth of the messiah yeah because religions never done that before 
As for crucifixion I with the others the point of it was to make a grizzly display of what happens to those who oppose the Roman state
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RE: This Fellow Rips Lee Stroebel A New Asshole
April 18, 2017 at 4:40 pm
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(April 17, 2017 at 12:18 am)ronedee Wrote: yup, the zombies gather for the feast!
Just like in Matthew 27:52-53
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RE: This Fellow Rips Lee Stroebel A New Asshole
April 18, 2017 at 7:42 pm
(April 18, 2017 at 4:40 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote: (April 17, 2017 at 12:18 am)ronedee Wrote: yup, the zombies gather for the feast!
Just like in Matthew 27:52-53
The video is even better:
Note the disclaimer at the beginning (from grave, no doubt???); but, there's also an Indian version:
Note the absence of any short skirts and/or immodest clothing!
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