I know this is a stupid question, but is there anywhere to go to debate theists that isn't just a complete waste of time, either because of the quality of theist, or the bias of the forum? I have yet to find anywhere that has intelligent theists, or worse, where the deck isn't stacked completely in the favor of theists, such that you're not allowed to question their beliefs, but they can attack you all day long. I'm pretty sure such a place doesn't exist, but I figured I'd ask.
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Where to Debate Theists?
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 (April 10, 2017 at 1:27 pm)Cephus Wrote: I know this is a stupid question, but is there anywhere to go to debate theists that isn't just a complete waste of time, either because of the quality of theist, or the bias of the forum? I have yet to find anywhere that has intelligent theists, or worse, where the deck isn't stacked completely in the favor of theists, such that you're not allowed to question their beliefs, but they can attack you all day long. I'm pretty sure such a place doesn't exist, but I figured I'd ask. Out of curiosity, do you think that atheists and theists debating one another makes sense? From my observations here, both sides seem to use terms differently. For example, to my knowledge, regarding evidence, some theists (Christian) have written that they consider the NT, observations of reality, and their personal experiences with god as evidence of its existence, whereas some atheists have written that actual data that can stand up to the scientific scrutiny of repeated tests (conducted by different teams of qualified individuals) that yield the same results would be regarded as evidence for its existence. Hence, how can one engage in a meaningful debate if both sides are applying different definitions to key terms that are at the heart of the debate? Rather than a debate, would an open dialog between atheists and theists (assuming they wanted to participate) be helpful in clarifying misunderstandings and enabling both sides to learn more about the other? 
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 (April 10, 2017 at 1:27 pm)Cephus Wrote: I know this is a stupid question, but is there anywhere to go to debate theists that isn't just a complete waste of time, either because of the quality of theist, or the bias of the forum? I have yet to find anywhere that has intelligent theists, or worse, where the deck isn't stacked completely in the favor of theists, such that you're not allowed to question their beliefs, but they can attack you all day long. I'm pretty sure such a place doesn't exist, but I figured I'd ask. Why, do you have an argument that hasn't been addressed a thousand times before? 
Why not right here? I can't guarantee the quality of the theist, but at least there are some.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 RE: Where to Debate Theists?
April 10, 2017 at 4:18 pm
(This post was last modified: April 10, 2017 at 4:19 pm by Whateverist.)
You must debate them on the seas and oceans, you must debate with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, you must defend our reality, whatever the cost may be. You must debate on the beaches, on the landing grounds, in the fields and in the streets, .. you must never surrender!
Seriously you might try debating with Catholic_Lady over the propriety of toilet humor on the internet.  (April 10, 2017 at 4:18 pm)Whateverist Wrote: You must debate them on the seas and oceans, you must debate with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, you must defend our reality, whatever the cost may be. You must debate on the beaches, on the landing grounds, in the fields and in the streets, .. you must never surrender! Forsome reason you just reminded me of a cartoon I saw once. Might have even been from a Mad magazine I found somewhere (second hand shop?). Churchill gives his grand speech and then someone taps him on the shoulder and says, "How about we fight them in Germany?" Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni: "You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???" |
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