The only way I could believe .......

[Brian37]

In a bigger cognition is if we were merely experiments, like insects, lab rats, much like humans trap and kill other animals to study them. But even then, the logic is lost as soon as you paint such a head character as perfect and never harming anything ever.

It is understandable that humans study raccoons for rabies and long ago rabbits for pregnancy, but it makes no sense after all this time that an alleged God would say he wants us all to get along but either allows us to suffer, smites those he hates, but still lets his followers, his most strident fans suffer. 

When I say "the only way I can believe" it is strictly metaphor. The logic is not there morally for either a specific club god name or a cosmic lab mad scientist. 

It remains in reality that there is no super hero helping anyone, and the only ones to help humans, AND THE PLANET, are other humans.

[Little Rik]

In a bigger cognition is if we were merely experiments, like insects, lab rats, much like humans trap and kill other animals to study them. But even then, the logic is lost as soon as you paint such a head character as perfect and never harming anything ever.

It is understandable that humans study raccoons for rabies and long ago rabbits for pregnancy, but it makes no sense after all this time that an alleged God would say he wants us all to get along but either allows us to suffer, smites those he hates, but still lets his followers, his most strident fans suffer. 

When I say "the only way I can believe" it is strictly metaphor. The logic is not there morally for either a specific club god name or a cosmic lab mad scientist. 

It remains in reality that there is no super hero helping anyone, and the only ones to help humans, AND THE PLANET, are other humans.

You may well be a good person but you have a problem Brian.
You are very very naive.
I already pointed out all this to you in a previous post in which you think that people should have a neutral view when answer your questions.
Now you show once again your naivety and gullibility by pretending that a father is wrong when punishing his children when they do something wrong.
Not only that but you also declare without any evidence that God smite those he hates.
Control your fantasy son because it can take you the wrong way.

[Brian37]

In a bigger cognition is if we were merely experiments, like insects, lab rats, much like humans trap and kill other animals to study them. But even then, the logic is lost as soon as you paint such a head character as perfect and never harming anything ever.

It is understandable that humans study raccoons for rabies and long ago rabbits for pregnancy, but it makes no sense after all this time that an alleged God would say he wants us all to get along but either allows us to suffer, smites those he hates, but still lets his followers, his most strident fans suffer. 

When I say "the only way I can believe" it is strictly metaphor. The logic is not there morally for either a specific club god name or a cosmic lab mad scientist. 

It remains in reality that there is no super hero helping anyone, and the only ones to help humans, AND THE PLANET, are other humans.

You may well be a good person but you have a problem Brian.
You are very very naive.
I already pointed out all this to you in a previous post in which you think that people should have a neutral view when answer your questions.
Now you show once again your naivety and gullibility by pretending that a father is wrong when punishing his children when they do something wrong.
Not only that but you also declare without any evidence that God smite those he hates.
Control your fantasy son because it can take you the wrong way.

Your words, posted above, "God would say he wants us all to get along but either allows us to suffer, smites those he hates, but still lets his followers, his most strident fans suffer. "

That's sick.

Ok, so if you had say 3 kids 4 and 5 and 6 years old, and let one starve to death, let one get raped by a child molester, and only protected one, but all of them were loyal to you and obey'd you, you would be a selective deadbeat? 

Smites those he hates? 

That is sick too. 

Lets say one of those kids or two of those kids do not obey you, that would make it ok to let them starve to death, get raped, or deny them medical care?

In real life if you allow your kids to suffer, in the sane world, those parents get the kids taken away and or arrested. And while some authoritarian parents think it is ok to beat the shit out of their kids, or "smite" them for not obeying, more and more of society is not finding that acceptable.

So if humans are supposed to be more like God, since I hate Trump, does that mean I can beat the shit out of his supporters?

The only way your quote works is if humans are merely his property. I woke up, I don't see humans, much less children as property to either "allow to suffer" or "beat the shit out of" when they do something I don't like.

If that is your idea of morality, you should re consider. But don't try to peddle that to me.

[Fake Messiah]

Now you show once again your naivety and gullibility by pretending that a father is wrong when punishing his children when they do something wrong.

What about babies that drown in the flood and get squashed in the earthquake, or are born without kidneys and have few hours to live? What bad did they do wrong? Got born?

Control your fantasy son because...

Brian37, I didn't know Little Rik is your father.

[Brian37]

Now you show once again your naivety and gullibility by pretending that a father is wrong when punishing his children when they do something wrong.

What about babies that drown in the flood and get squashed in the earthquake, or are born without kidneys and have few hours to live? What bad did they do wrong? Got born?

Control your fantasy son because...

Brian37, I didn't know Little Rik is your father.

Dark Helmet "Lonestar, I am your father's cousin's brother's former roommate."

Lonstar, "So what does that make us?"

Dark Helmet, "Absolutely nothing!"

[c172]

Could always disown him.

[Little Rik]

You may well be a good person but you have a problem Brian.
You are very very naive.
I already pointed out all this to you in a previous post in which you think that people should have a neutral view when answer your questions.
Now you show once again your naivety and gullibility by pretending that a father is wrong when punishing his children when they do something wrong.
Not only that but you also declare without any evidence that God smite those he hates.
Control your fantasy son because it can take you the wrong way.

Your words, posted above, "God would say he wants us all to get along but either allows us to suffer, smites those he hates, but still lets his followers, his most strident fans suffer. "

That's sick.

Ok, so if you had say 3 kids 4 and 5 and 6 years old, and let one starve to death, let one get raped by a child molester, and only protected one, but all of them were loyal to you and obey'd you, you would be a selective deadbeat?

What garbage are talking about Brian?
A father look after all his children equally.
If then along the way his grown up children (now adult) do something wrong then the karma law will take care of the problem.
If the problem can not be rectify in this life then it will be in a future life.
And if a child suffer in his young age that means that he-she is paying for something that he-she did in a previous life.
Try to avoiding pay your mortgage if you can.
Even if you die your family members will have to continue to pay until the debt has been exhausted.
The karma law work in the same way.
Until the debt has been paid she will chase you life after life.

Smites those he hates? 
That is sick too. 
Lets say one of those kids or two of those kids do not obey you, that would make it ok to let them starve to death, get raped, or deny them medical care?
In real life if you allow your kids to suffer, in the sane world, those parents get the kids taken away and or arrested. And while some authoritarian parents think it is ok to beat the shit out of their kids, or "smite" them for not obeying, more and more of society is not finding that acceptable.

That is a load o'crap Brian.

One thing that God can not do is to hate.
That would means that some of his plans went wrong and because God is perfect that is not possible.
A human father may well do something wrong but the supreme father can not.

So if humans are supposed to be more like God, since I hate Trump, does that mean I can beat the shit out of his supporters?

Wrong again Brian.
A seed will become a plant or a tree but until it stay as a seed is not a grown up plant or a tree
therefore it doesn't have the full potential as a grown up adult.
When your seed consciousness will reach God and become one with it then you will know what is right and what is wrong.

The only way your quote works is if humans are merely his property. I woke up, I don't see humans, much less children as property to either "allow to suffer" or "beat the shit out of" when they do something I don't like.

If that is your idea of morality, you should re consider. But don't try to peddle that to me.

I am afraid Brian that you haven't got an iota of idea about what morality is all about.

Have a good day.  


This post answer Fake Messiah questions as well.  

[Brian37]

Your words, posted above, "God would say he wants us all to get along but either allows us to suffer, smites those he hates, but still lets his followers, his most strident fans suffer. "

That's sick.

Ok, so if you had say 3 kids 4 and 5 and 6 years old, and let one starve to death, let one get raped by a child molester, and only protected one, but all of them were loyal to you and obey'd you, you would be a selective deadbeat?

What garbage are talking about Brian?
A father look after all his children equally.
If then along the way his grown up children (now adult) do something wrong then the karma law will take care of the problem.
If the problem can not be rectify in this life then it will be in a future life.
And if a child suffer in his young age that means that he-she is paying for something that he-she did in a previous life.
Try to avoiding pay your mortgage if you can.
Even if you die your family members will have to continue to pay until the debt has been exhausted.
The karma law work in the same way.
Until the debt has been paid she will chase you life after life.

Smites those he hates? 
That is sick too. 
Lets say one of those kids or two of those kids do not obey you, that would make it ok to let them starve to death, get raped, or deny them medical care?
In real life if you allow your kids to suffer, in the sane world, those parents get the kids taken away and or arrested. And while some authoritarian parents think it is ok to beat the shit out of their kids, or "smite" them for not obeying, more and more of society is not finding that acceptable.

That is a load o'crap Brian.

One thing that God can not do is to hate.
That would means that some of his plans went wrong and because God is perfect that is not possible.
A human father may well do something wrong but the supreme father can not.

So if humans are supposed to be more like God, since I hate Trump, does that mean I can beat the shit out of his supporters?

Wrong again Brian.
A seed will become a plant or a tree but until it stay as a seed is not a grown up plant or a tree
therefore it doesn't have the full potential as a grown up adult.
When your seed consciousness will reach God and become one with it then you will know what is right and what is wrong.

The only way your quote works is if humans are merely his property. I woke up, I don't see humans, much less children as property to either "allow to suffer" or "beat the shit out of" when they do something I don't like.

If that is your idea of morality, you should re consider. But don't try to peddle that to me.

I am afraid Brian that you haven't got an iota of idea about what morality is all about.

Have a good day.  


This post answer Fake Messiah questions as well.  

While I am not claiming to be a perfect human being, and never will, I have no history of violence or felony arrests for violence. I haven't even had a speeding ticket since 1999.

Yea, I am well on my way to being a serial killer.  

Lecture me about morality when your claimed head character is depicted as getting revenge on a king by taking it out on the Egyptian First born.

Nope, what you are experiencing in your reaction is what is known as cognitive dissonance. 

You not liking my rejection of your claims does not make me evil.

[Little Rik]

What garbage are talking about Brian?
A father look after all his children equally.
If then along the way his grown up children (now adult) do something wrong then the karma law will take care of the problem.
If the problem can not be rectify in this life then it will be in a future life.
And if a child suffer in his young age that means that he-she is paying for something that he-she did in a previous life.
Try to avoiding pay your mortgage if you can.
Even if you die your family members will have to continue to pay until the debt has been exhausted.
The karma law work in the same way.
Until the debt has been paid she will chase you life after life.




That is a load o'crap Brian.

One thing that God can not do is to hate.
That would means that some of his plans went wrong and because God is perfect that is not possible.
A human father may well do something wrong but the supreme father can not.




Wrong again Brian.
A seed will become a plant or a tree but until it stay as a seed is not a grown up plant or a tree
therefore it doesn't have the full potential as a grown up adult.
When your seed consciousness will reach God and become one with it then you will know what is right and what is wrong.




I am afraid Brian that you haven't got an iota of idea about what morality is all about.

Have a good day.  


This post answer Fake Messiah questions as well.  

While I am not claiming to be a perfect human being, and never will, I have no history of violence or felony arrests for violence. I haven't even had a speeding ticket since 1999.

Yea, I am well on my way to being a serial killer.  

Lecture me about morality when your claimed head character is depicted as getting revenge on a king by taking it out on the Egyptian First born.

Nope, what you are experiencing in your reaction is what is known as cognitive dissonance. 

You not liking my rejection of your claims does not make me evil.

It never came in my mind that you are evil.
All it came is that you are super naive.  

[Brian37]

While I am not claiming to be a perfect human being, and never will, I have no history of violence or felony arrests for violence. I haven't even had a speeding ticket since 1999.

Yea, I am well on my way to being a serial killer.  

Lecture me about morality when your claimed head character is depicted as getting revenge on a king by taking it out on the Egyptian First born.

Nope, what you are experiencing in your reaction is what is known as cognitive dissonance. 

You not liking my rejection of your claims does not make me evil.

It never came in my mind that you are evil.
All it came is that you are super naive.  

Good, then don't you fucking dare lecture me on morality. You not liking my book review of how a character is depicted in a book, is not my baggage. 

Maybe you need to consider that that book reflects the tribal blind loyalty expected back then, in the times that the book was written, and has no application today because western society has grown up since then.

You are naive, not me. There is no invisible sky hero handing us morality. If an individual does good they do good, if an individual does bad, they do bad. No magic required, no old book of myth need to explain why humans do either good or bad. 

It was understandable BACK THEN that loyalty was expected, because most humans lived under ruling royalty and BACK THEN the mortality rate was much higher, so it was far more important BACK THEN to tow the tribal line. And back then, not just in monotheism, but polytheism, the ruling class mistook their good fortune as coming from a divine place.

None of that character you call GOD, reflects our modern concepts of governing. He isn't elected to his position. The book uses words like, "lord", "master", "slave" and "servant" and "kingdom". BECAUSE that is what humans lived under BACK THEN.

The lead character called "God" in that book is not elected, does not need your consent to rule over you. He cannot be impeached if you don't like what he does. He can do whatever he wants to you and does not have to explain himself to you. He demands loyalty without question. EXACTLY WHAT HUMANS DID BACK THEN, obey'd the king.

How about YOU consider that and take your beer goggles off and stop projecting your idea of "morality" on me.