Has anyone been to a funeral where the individual goes to hell?

[Whateverist]

No..  Do they like pat you on the back and say "He's in a worse place now..."

Or .. "now he's in a place where he can't cause so much pain".

[Faith No More]

I have. It wasn't stated directly, but the message was clear.

My friend killed himself, and his parents were Catholic. The priest didn't bother with any comforting words and instead spent the entire eulogy comparing my friend to Judas Iscariot, because they both killed themselves. When a Catholic sits there comparing someone to a man that Dante describes as being confined to the lowest level of hell getting chewed on by one of the three heads of Satan, the subtext is clear.

The guy is lucky I was still in shock, or else I'd have probably blackened his eye.

[brewer]

I thought Judas was one of gods tools. Why would he be in hell?

[vorlon13]

Yeah, there is an unusual amount of befuddlement (even for their orbit) on the topic of Judas.

And it gets even more confusing for them if/when they start processing Jesus ministry being underwritten by powerful Romans.


I could imagine Christian heads exploding like popcorn in a microwave.

[brewer]

And why pick Judas who fingered god to die and not any other suicide, lets say Samson? Or Saul and his arms bearer? 

The guy was a bigus dickus. Simple and judgemental.

[vorlon13]

Adam and Eve were fated to die when they ate the fruit, too. And scripture is clear, they were aware prior to doing it.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I have.  It wasn't stated directly, but the message was clear.

My friend killed himself, and his parents were Catholic.  The priest didn't bother with any comforting words and instead spent the entire eulogy comparing my friend to Judas Iscariot, because they both killed themselves. When a Catholic sits there comparing someone to a man that Dante describes as being confined to the lowest level of hell getting chewed on by one of the three heads of Satan, the subtext is clear.

The guy is lucky I was still in shock, or else I'd have probably blackened his eye.

I had a similar experience during my father's funeral. The priest didn't so much as say Da was going to hell, but made the observation that God was so forgiving, that even someone like my father could - eventually - make it to Heaven.

They pulled me off the priest before I could crush his windpipe. He declined to press charges.

Boru

[chimp3]

Every funeral that the Westboro Baptist Church shows up at. They tried to show up at Leonard Nimoy's funeral but the family cancelled the public invitation.

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015...ist-church

[Valyza1]

The atheists on the radio this AM were discussing this. During a funeral have any of you ever heard of the deceased going to hell? I certainly never have. 

I've known quite a few that certainly qualify according to christians/muslims/jews/mormons(?). 

And before some of you say, well they repented before they died, I'll say that some died instantly and some in their sleep with no chance to repent.

If fear of being sent to the bad place is a real driving force, and we know these people qualify, why aren't the religious stating that's where they went?

There's a prevalent belief in many sects that people can't know what God's final judgement is. For all anyone knows, the deceased may have had a change of heart quietly without it being obvious to anyone around him or her. God is viewed as the ultimate judge, as knowing all the appropriate details. C.S. Lewis, an outspoken Christian, once wrote that it may even be true that God is more pleased with an Atheist who honestly can't bring him or herself to believe, than with a hypocrite theist who just pays lip service but who's heart runs against what comes out of his or her mouth. How that divine pleasure would translate into opportunities for entering Heaven is a different question, but the point is that, at least according to the more benign religious outlooks, no human being is qualified to make that ultimate judgement about a soul.

[Crossless2.0]

An acquaintance committed suicide several years ago. His service was odd. It was officiated by a tribal spiritual representative (in deference to his father's side) and a Catholic priest (in deference to his mother, who did not attend). The priest looked like he wanted to be anywhere but there and practically turned himself inside-out to avoid referring to either his manner of death or his pagan beliefs and disdain for the Church. "Father" uttered a few banalities and looked relieved, if bemused, when the tribal elder took the baton.