Origin of Matter

[Mister Agenda]

I don't see how it would logically lead to that belief. It doesn't seem to follow. Do YOU see how it would logically lead to that belief?

“Where does that come from” begs the question if it comes from something at all.  The possibilities are “it does come from somewhere/something” or “it does not come from somewhere/something.”  Even if we don’t know the answer, the reality is that it comes from somewhere/something or it does not (origin in this case a null/void).  If one believes this is a false dichotomy please provide a third, or fourth, etc. option.  Do you agree with the first 3 sentences in this paragraph?  If so, I can expand on why I think it would logically lead to that belief of an infinite past for something that is not null/void.

Edit: Just FYI, Mister Agenda has responded to this and he and I are discussing our conversation via e-mail... seems to be a more efficient medium for lengthy discussions and easier dialogue than message boards.

Third option: Matter and energy have always existed on some form or another. There may be more options, but I can't think of any. An infinite past may be counter-intuitive, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist outside the context of our own cosmos. And I think that a case could be made that a null/void could not exist for more than an instant (with no time, how could it be otherwise?).

At any rate, 'we don't know the ultimate origin of the stuff in the cosmos' leads to the conclusion that 'we don't know the ultimate origin of the stuff in the cosmos'. Of what significance is that?